283. Conscious Scan Technology Explained: Detect Hidden Health Imbalances Before Symptoms Appear | Daniel Zavrel

SPEAKER_05 0:00

So let's talk about this conscious scan. Is this what's that look like? How does that happen?

SPEAKER_07 0:03

Yeah, so uh a client sends snail a picture or a photo, then we we share the screen like we're doing uh now. It's it's just a zoom session or whatever other uh remote uh distance call uh software, and then we uh start to scan the whole body. So you see the brain, you see the rib cage, you see the skeleton, and then the the stomach, the liver, the kidneys, the lungs. We go in into every organ we can go to the cells, to the DNA, and then we see hey, where there is balance and where there is unbalance. So you see on a very accurate level where, for example, somebody is stressed out. Like I met this person who had this liver really, really stressed out. Well, all like black and black spots, like fives and sex, as we call it in our technology, high stress, loss of energy, and there was so much anger in this person.

SPEAKER_05 0:58

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SPEAKER_07 2:37

Thank you so much for having me, uh David. Really looking forward to this show. Yes.

SPEAKER_05 2:41

Okay, so tell me a little bit about yourself and how you got to what you're doing today.

SPEAKER_07 2:45

Yeah, so uh originally I'm a business economist, so I started from a way other discipline. And but soon I discovered that the human part when I was working in organization, I find much more interesting. So then I came more into the performance field and then to the vitality part of the performance and the well-being, and then I totally specialized in uh yeah, helping people in their best version to be well, to be vital. And so that's what I'm doing in both corporations and also for elite sports, and now also, of course, for private people.

SPEAKER_05 3:19

That's quite a transition. I've kind of transitioned as well. I was I actually majored for a while in economics up until the last year of college when I realized that it was I'd have to do all this regression analysis and statistical stuff, and I just said, nah, that's not for me. I majored in finance and real estate and just settled on my real estate business degree at the very end. But no, I don't practice any of that. I'm in the health field, so you know ha ha. Yeah, so tell me more about uh this transition and and why and and how does this help humanity?

SPEAKER_07 3:48

Yeah, it was actually as a young guy, I was already fascinated by what the heck am I doing on this planet? I looked at the stars and I thought, what's the meaning of life? What happens after death? Is there alien life? So, all these kind of philosophical questions I find much more interesting than my business economics. And so I dove deep into it. I became a mindfulness teacher, yoga teacher, and especially the Iyenga yoga. And then it's called Iyenga yoga, it's a way of Hata Yoga developed by Mr. Iyengar. Actually, it's one of the most practiced forms of yoga in the world, but it's kind of an they call it the Marines Yoga because it's quite harsh on technique. You do headstands, you do backbands, you do so it's very, very much on the technique side of the Hata Yoga part. Yeah, so I became a yoga teacher and later on also indeed hard math coach, yeah, working more from the heart, and then uh developed a conscious scan method based on technology which was first deployed for elite forces in the US. Then in the Cold War, the Russians developed it further and they applied it for their cosmonauts because it's very expensive to get a cosmonaut out of space, let's let's say a stomach ulcer.

SPEAKER_05 5:03

So they had this I didn't catch, I didn't catch that. So you said a cosplay car? I I didn't catch that word. Uh conscious scan. Oh conscious scan, and you'd say that elite forces would use this into a war.

SPEAKER_07 5:19

Yeah, that's right. So on Stanford, like the first steps were made, and it was during the cold cold war, and then the Russians actually developed it in a larger scale way because they wanted to apply it for their cosmonauts, and in that way, that it's very expensive to get a cosmonaut out of space disease, for example, with a liver disease or stomach ulcer. So they developed this method which uh could scan the bioenergy field in an early stage before disease materializing. And yeah, the Russians are in a quite unique space because half of them is looking at Europe, and so they have Western influence, but the other half is looking at the East to China, and so they have actually this very integral approach to health and medicine, and that's why almost most of the Nobel prizes of medicine come from Russia. Um, many people don't know that, but they have many, many Nobel Awards and prizes. Uh they've won that. And so after the walls went down, this technology came to Germany, and the Germans further medically certified it. And based on that technology, I've developed conscious scan, and conscious is with a Z, it's a playful element. My company is called conscious with a Z to make people conscious because when you're more conscious, you can make better choices. And with so with the scan, we scan literally the whole body onto the DNA level, and it's a quantum-based technology.

SPEAKER_05 6:41

Now, is this a machine or is this the as a human doing like remote viewing, or is this or technology?

SPEAKER_07 6:47

Which yeah, it's a biofeedback technology. Yeah, so and we can measure in three ways. So when a person would be in person with me, we will scan with a headphone with so-called biophotons, but we can also do it on distance with the so-called uh cell analysis box, and then I just need a piece of hair or nail or even a photo works, and but to have it medically certified, I use nail or hair. But about 95% of my clients just send a selfie, put it in the cell analysis box, and then I have a whole device here, and with yeah, when I share my screen, they see the whole body appearing. And so I did this with elite sports in the Netherlands, for example, with now we have the world champions soccer in the US, Canada, and Mexico. But in the Netherlands, I scanned as I guided as a mental coach, Pace Vay, which is one of the top three soccer clubs with this conscious scan method. And so we won the Dutch national title three times in a row, and also with another top national team, it did the same. So I scanned all these players, so they have this top mental game with top mental fit. We can calculate nutrition totally personalized 100% with really one press on a button. So it's a quite unique technology because it's an investment of billions and billions by the Russians, and so the Germans only had to finish it actually, in a way. And it's really amazing that I can use this now and to heal people and to heal the world.

SPEAKER_05 8:09

So you're telling me I can send you a picture, or you could you take a picture of me now and put it in the cylinder? Exactly.

SPEAKER_07 8:14

Yeah, and that's uh I think that's the most abstract thing to people to know. But in maybe also in the yoga philosophy, you know, we don't only have one body, the material body. We have actually seven bodies. And we have the ethereal body where acupuncture works on, and when you feel the electricity of the needles, of the meridians, that's actually the ethereal body. Then we have the emotional body where all feelings and emotions are stored. We have the intellectual body with all imprints and beliefs and mental processes. Then we have the astral body, and when you fall asleep, you go in the astral body and you can travel wherever you want to go in your sleep. And then you have the spiritual body bodies, like the Ananda body, which is pure bliss, and the causal body is actually what you are in essence, like pure divine consciousness, and all these fields together. You said causal body.

SPEAKER_05 9:05

For some reason, I'm having a hard time understanding what what you're saying. Maybe you close to the microphone might help. But you said causal body?

SPEAKER_07 9:11

Yeah, the causal body. It's actually what they call in the yoga the causal body, but you can also uh see it as some people call it the golden body. But actually, it's the energy field where you are one with everything, where you are pure awareness, pure consciousness. Let's say your divine consciousness, your pure essence, and all these fields together form your bioenergy field. And that's what we will measure with this conscious scan technology.

SPEAKER_05 9:38

Wow. I'm sure for a lot of listeners, that's probably mind-blowing to uh to hear that. But also not because we we're also used to using things like MRIs and PET scans, and and we all and a lot of people go to the doctor today to get different scans, and literally they're using energy and frequency to measure the body. Is there kind of is that a good comparison that we're picking up energy from the body? Uh, of course, in in that case, you're in a machine or near a machine or like an X-ray machine. But in this case, we're just taking the picture and you're putting it in this device, and it's able to scan your body. And so it's reading, I hear what you're saying, is you're reading that energy coming off of that picture. Okay.

SPEAKER_07 10:14

Yeah, exactly. So it's actually based on quantum entanglements. So it's a quantum physics-based technology. So let's first talk about a piece of hair. When you when I would scan a piece of hair, so you you put it in a cell analysis box in the in the conscious scan technology, and then in quantum technology, so if you are like now in the States, I'm here in the Philippines, so it's quite far away from each other, but that doesn't matter in quantum physics. When I have your information here, it's entangled with you, with your bioenergy field in the states, and that's called quantum entanglement. So distance is irrelevant in quantum physics as is time. And so I have all the information, and like for example, in acupuncture, all the information in the ear represents all organs, so in the feet. For example, when you do feet reflexology, so everything is imparted in the tiniest bit. So even in the hair, the whole is captured, every information, and also in a photo. And in the photo, it's more subtle because that's the energetic bodies. As like that, the Indians would run away when a photo was being taken from them because they thought the soul would be captured. Yeah, and the soul will not be captured, but their information and energy will, because you we can we have all your information stored by this quantum entanglement also on a photo.

SPEAKER_05 11:32

I'm gonna tell you a story that may blow all my listeners away, but when I began on my health journey, 1991-ish, I met a gentleman in southern Idaho who had what did he call it? He had a device, and all we had to do was send him a picture. And it was, I don't remember who how he got it. I I they they don't make him anymore, but he would he called putting the picture in the tray, and then he'd go through these frequencies and with he would discern what remedies, what herbs or what you know nutrients that I should be taking. And to a lot of people, that was pretty far out. And that was shoot, what, 35 plus years ago. Anyway, you know, we're all energy beings. And and so when you mentioned earlier during the Cold War, I also, you know, am I familiar with uh Dr. My gosh, who's the I've read all of her books, Kathy, but she was doing, started testing on the remote viewing and then remote prayer, and then basically doing remote and then doing heart math coherence and then doing prayer for people. First, she did it on plants, and then she did it on humans. And so it's interesting how all this has evolved over the years. And now you're today, here in 2026, you're in the Philippines. I'm in Boise, Idaho. We are many miles away, we're talking on a computers, and really it's just frequency and energy picking up who we are. So it's really not that wild, but for some people what you're saying would be somewhat wild. Am I correct? Absolutely.

SPEAKER_07 12:50

Yeah, absolutely. So for our left brain, it's somewhere hard to grasp and when you don't have any touch of feeling with quantum physics, and then it's like uh woo-hoo. And but actually, it's quite logical. Also, in the system, it's all mathematics, and uh, so everything has an has its own frequency. Like, for example, the bones are on 1.8 hertz, the brain is on 8.2 hertz, the liver is for is on 4.9. So, what happens is that all these organs have their own, let's say, radio frequency, and every organ talks with each other, and that happens with the speed of light. And that's what Professor Fritz-Albert Popp, a German professor, uh, discovered, and now it's affirmed by 150 universities that we are light beings, and that uh the every communication in our body goes with biophotons, with the speed of light. Because with the speed of the blood, they couldn't explain that we are sitting here, trillions of processes are going on in our body, and they could not explain it with the speed of the nerves, nerve system. It's quite fast, but not fast enough to explain trillions of processes. So then now we know we are light beings, and that every organ talks with each other with the speed of light. So the the brain communicates with the heart, the heart with the kidneys, and it's just like one very speed, and everything has its specific frequency. And so, if that's healthy, and so what the technology does, let's say we are scanning the liver on 4.9 hertz, it sends via this cell analysis big or via the photo or here, it sends this 4.9 hertz to the liver. If the liver is balanced, it sends back the same frequency, and so hey, the liver is balanced. But let's say you took uh four wines and maybe uh whiskey with it, and uh then I will scan the liver, and the skin the liver is in stress, it's in high entropy. And this loss of energy and information will be picked up at a technology, and then it's just mathematics. It's it's a huge database with healthy tissue, disease tissues, viruses, 5G radiation, psychoemotional patterns, nutrition, and then it's called spectrography. So we measure your liver and we compare it to the database, and then we see, hey, with a probability of 95%, we see suppressed anger here, or we see liver cirrhose, we see, or we see like uh a virus appearing in in the liver, or we see that broccoli is especially suitable, but that let's say pork isn't, and etc. So we can based on these frequencies, you make uh total holistic advice uh for a person.

SPEAKER_05 15:14

So did it help to have your your the background in economics to make sense of this, or was that was that a barrier for you?

SPEAKER_07 15:21

Well, I think my academic mind helped me, and because of course, when you study on a university, I studied on Erasmus University in in the Netherlands, and then yeah, the academic way of thinking, I'm a very critical person, even skeptical. But when something works and I know how it works, then I and then I become very enthusiastic. So then, yes, a kind of the analytical mind one wants to understand as well. So when you dive into this technology, yeah, your left brain will be satisfied because it's all logic, and then the right brain and the heart brain and the belly brain. So then you as a as a human being think, wow, this is amazing that I can help so many people with this technology because so many people need it. And like in the Netherlands, the chronic diseases are skyrocketing. I think the same in in the States, yeah, and like of course, the Western medicine has really good things. Like when you break a leg, you better go to a western hospital, they can fix it very well. But if you have migraine or you have like a chronic disease, it's a different story because then yeah, they are very good in treating the symptoms, but not the underlying disease. And so I know in in you have this book, Your Brain is Medicine, written by a French psychiatrist, and he talks with six Tibetan doctors, and they were both educated in Western as a Western doctor, so they studied in the West and became a certified Western doctor, but they were also Tibetan doctors. And then he asked them, When do you apply the Western approach? When do you apply the Eastern approach? And they said, Well, it's quite simple. Generally, when something is acute, we generally apply more of the Western approach, but when something is chronic, we use our approach because the Western cannot heal, they say. They can only treat symptoms, and they're very good at it, but they cannot really heal the body because then you have to go to the emotional part, you have to go to the mental part, you have to go to the spiritual part, you have to go to the nutritional part. And I saw this American documentary, I really found it fascinating. That let's say for 150 years in the States, you had this very yeah, everywhere you had this herb factories or uh doctor practices based on herbs. And it was a very harsh and difficult education to be a doctor in herbs, and they healed with herbs. And then, and this documentary told that the Rockefeller family, they were in oil, slowly but Sally took over that business and they transformed all the medicine to oil bases because they were in oil, and then also they transformed the universities around medicine. So, and in the end, an average doctor only got like half an hour about nutrition. It's amazing. So that's why the West can't heal anymore, because they only use these pharmaceutics, which can have its use again for most of the time acute things, but they have unlearned to heal a body and to heal a person. That's why these chronic diseases are skyrocketing everywhere. And of course, we have this processed food and stuff. Yeah, so they said when it's chronic, the Tibetan doctors, yeah, then we use our own method. And I think, yeah, a marriage between East and West would be the best, eh? And but I think the Western medicine kind of has has a kind of arrogance sometimes to the East, and the other way around, it's not. It's like yeah, it's like you have this Zen Master. Yeah, I compare it to let's say the Zen Master with a really long beard who's very patient, and then this young guy of 18 years old comes and he just listens compassionate to the young guy and think, well, everything will be alright. Because traditional Chinese medicine is 5,000 years old, as is the Ayovetic approach. 100 years old. We have this huge arrogance to acupunctural or homeopathic, well, it's not scientifically proven and this and that. But this when you take a closer look at it, I think the complementary approach would be best to integrate East and West.

SPEAKER_05 19:14

Yeah. We had on back in April, uh episode 269, we had uh Master Ming Tong Gu about Qigong healing. And you know, he came as a science math guy, went to one of the best universities here in the United States, and then just wasn't resonating. And like you, he trained, he went then back to started learning about healing and and energy healing, and then went back to a medicinalist hospital in China and then got educated, which was kind of an interesting circle loop, but he was also a mathematician like you. Uh, you know, you're in economics, but math, it's all math. Anyway, fascinating.

SPEAKER_07 19:46

Yeah. And the circle's that's that's that's a great story. And in China, the doctors are being paid by how empty the waiting room is. And so the I know isn't that amazing? That's much better because that that means you're really helping your patients. Like the waiting room is empty. And uh that's a good thing. So you help them heal and stay away from you.

SPEAKER_05 20:08

Well, we we're spending five trillion dollars in the United States, and I would say that if we employed more of what like what we do here at Living Waters, colonics, what you're doing, heart math, meditation, get rid of you know, healing your emotions, we'd cut the sick care bill by 75%, is my belief.

SPEAKER_07 20:24

Absolutely, absolutely.

SPEAKER_05 20:27

If they gave an incentive to have empty waiting rooms, that would be an interesting transition in the United States. But for people to get their head around it, I think there's, you know, we've been brainwashed for over a hundred and uh what, 115 years. You know, they started taking away the homeopaths and the nat and the natural past and the herbal healers back in the in 1910. So we've had a long, long road of being brainwashed and to believe that this is the way things must be done. And but we're starting to pick up steam, I believe. Because we have to. I mean, we can't sustainable. We can't, I mean, everyone's complaining about you know Obama's sick care, which is a tragedy, but it's not sustainable, and it's gonna it's I don't know how long we can go before it just completely blow up implodes.

SPEAKER_07 21:03

Exactly, exactly. And but it's promising. I mean, all these new developments are coming. People like here in the Netherlands, I do live in the Philips now, but I I am from the Netherlands. In the Netherlands, more and more people use complementary medicine. Yeah, like they also find out, yeah. I cannot get really further with these pills and with this and with that. So I really have to look further. So they are diving into nutrition, into exercise, into energy healing, sound healing, uh, acupuncture, uh, all kinds of neuroemotional integration, emotional freedom techniques, so yeah, hard coherence techniques, meditation, because they know, yeah, you have to go much, much deeper to uh to heal yourself.

SPEAKER_05 21:47

Yeah, you know, and you know, it's been a journey for me, and and I was just open enough as a guy to read books and try it out. I mean, I've always been willing. Okay, let's try it, let's see what happens. You know, we'll do this energy thing on me. What's what is this? And and you know, I just kept trying all the different things. And reading books, and and here we are, and and just some of the a bunch of the things you mentioned, the heart EFT, heart math, sound healing. I mean, we do all those on our 10-day healing retreat. So let's talk about this conscious skin. Is this is is is what's that look like? How do we how does that happen?

SPEAKER_07 22:14

Yeah, so uh a client sends snail picture or a photo, then we we share the screen like we're doing uh now. It's it's just a zoom session or whatever other uh remote uh distance call uh software, and then we uh start to scan the whole body. So you see the brain, you see the rib cage, you see the skeleton, and then the the stomach, the liver, the kidneys, the lungs. We go in into every organ we can go to the cells, to the DNA, and then we see hey, where there is balance and where there is unbalance. So you see on a very accurate level where, for example, somebody is stressed out. Like I met this person who had this liver really, really stressed out, were all like black black spots, like fives and sexes, we call it in our technology, high stress, loss of energy, and there was so much anger in this per person stored. And he said, Yeah, I had a narcissistic, and he was so angry with her. And then we we saw it in a scan, and it was very confrontational to him. So, and I just told him, Maybe you should do a forgiveness exercise, and uh which is a strong exercise, I've applied with more people, and he was very resistant to that because he was so angry. But he thought, yeah, what the heck? I don't want this liver to stay this way. So he did it. Like, and three weeks later, I scanned him again, and his whole liver was lightened and it was back in balance, and he was really radiating. So he had forgiven his mother, and so this is just one example of maybe a surprising technique, but forgiveness is we've been talking with Daniel Zavrell of consciouswithaze.com.

SPEAKER_05 23:56

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SPEAKER_07 26:27

So they have they have done studies with monks who were monks for like 20 years of meditation, advanced zen meditation, and then they were in a workshop of forgiveness, and they were measuring their brain waves. And the advance the growth they had in balancing the brain waves was the same in like one week of forgiveness than 20 years of meditation they did. And they all said, Well, I should have known this before that forgiveness is so important. So I could see it in this person. This is just one example. So in the scan you look at, and then of course the nutrition. So for example, with Elite Sports, what they love so much about the conscious scan technology is that it calculates with one press on the button a totally personalized nutrition, nutritional advice. So what kind of nutrient? This person needs magnesium, this person needs vitamin B12, this person needs lycopene. And then we see, hey, this kind of meat is suitable, that's unsuitable, or maybe this person is vegan, okay, then this veggies are good, those ones are really disbalancing from the body. And yeah, that's what I so like about it. So you make a very holistic picture of the person with a very concrete, actionable plan, and then like two or three weeks later, you scan the person again to measure the progress. And yeah, we can track and trace until the deepest number, like even until the cell or DNA level. And that's what people love. They actually we make visual what's happening in the body, and yeah, this is of course based on 50 years of research and billions and billions and billions of investment by the Russians and later developed by the Germans.

SPEAKER_05 28:02

Speaking of the Germans, episode 14, we had uh Sylvia Bender on from On Demed, it's a German company, it has a pulse electromagnetic frequency machine we've been using here for 20 years. And again, so we're using frequency to pick up on where and then help the body to break the imbalance so the body can naturally heal. Now, the machine that you have, do you it it's it's gonna show you what a computer screen picture of what's going on in the body? Is that what you're seeing on your end?

SPEAKER_07 28:27

Yeah, for example, you see your stomach depicted on the screen and you see exactly where there is balance or disbalance. Here we call it entropy. So entropy is a natural loss of energy and information. So everything is energy and information. And when you don't do maintenance, for example, for your house for thousands years, it will become a rune. When you don't put energy in your relationship, it will become a rune. So, and also the stress speeds up this entropy. So, what we're measuring is entropy, loss of energy and information, and in practical way terms that means stress. So you see exactly where the stress, let's say, in the stomach is, you see the amount of energy in the stomach, on what frequency it's losing energy, and then the whole database, which I just explained, there we can see what could help the client. And it could be like a healthy affirmation, it could be a psycho-emotional pattern, and we can even look at prenatal imprints from the womb, which still is a non-helping belief for a person right now. And so we we do a lot on the mental coaching part because this technology has also 20 years of research with it on the psycho-emotional domain. Let's say, for example, with PSV, the this top soccer club in the Netherlands, where we won these cups with, there was one player, he was a very talented player, but he had this big fear of of failure. And we saw that in this, I saw it in the scan. And what happens, he had a very good action, but then the final, let's say the final goal or pass to a to a fellow player to was missing. And that was and he was also after the game always looking on a social media what what are people telling about my playing in game, and it makes him really nervous. I could see it in this intestines. So after he had played one game with the Dutch national team, he played very bad. And then his that was the first time I scanned him, because then he was sent to me. His whole stomach was black with stress, and I mean with stress symbols, fives of six from the technology, and it was on the stone of his stomach because he was so sensitive of what people other people would say about him. And so we really worked on that, and I think after three months it didn't bother him so much. But we also said only listen to people in your inner circle. Your mom, your dad, your trainer, baby, best friend, and that's it. And what other people are writing, just let it go. And so he started playing better, he was much more resilient, and yeah, so that's what I also like to do with this technology work on the psycho-emotional.

SPEAKER_05 30:53

And I don't know if you asked him, but I'll bet he was constipated too. He was constipating? I I bet he was constipated. I was bet that he didn't have regular bowel movements. That's correct. That's correct.

SPEAKER_07 31:04

Yeah, that's absolutely, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 31:06

Yeah, yeah. Bing bing bing. I mean, yeah, I show people every day. They come in here and they go, so let's talk about your stress. And yeah, yeah, and the stress or the anger, you know, liver is anger center.

SPEAKER_07 31:16

Yes. Absolutely. Yeah, so I love the traditional Chinese medicine approach, yeah, that certain emotions disbalance certain organs, yeah, like grief and sadness, disbalance the lungs, anger, indeed, as you were saying, uh, the liver and the gallbladder. Sorrow makes the stomach go out of balance when it's not processed, and when it's too much. Fear work on the kidneys, etc. So you can really see these themes coming back into the organs.

SPEAKER_05 31:42

Daniel, can we have a video on our website called Four Nights Lots of Healing? In that video, I show pictures. I have, in fact, I have a gastronologist doctor in the video showing about how the colon gets twisted and distorted and can go from being three inches in diameter to as big as 16, and how much old rotting fecal matter is in that colon and how all the nerves attached to in the body from the brain, everywhere, your heart, liver, spleen, kidney, arms, hands, shoulders connect to the gut. So when you store that, you get that stress there, you know, things literally get stopped up. And like your soccer player, it got stopped up mentally. And uh, so when we see people start to use colonics and then tying in what you're talking about, they have a really, really great release. I remember a gal years ago when I first started doing this. We have we had a little thing called life journey emotional release that we do here. We uh in the womb, she figured out that her mother was stressed out with her about her coming to earth because what was going on in her world then. And that, and then the baby picked up on it. And the gal that we did the cleanse with, she was finally able to forget her mother and realized, oh, mom was just stressed. But through her whole life, for who, 50 years, I think, at that time, she had been sometimes successful and then she'd crash. Successful and then crash. And it was just because uh, and then she she married a husband that treated her the same way as her mama did in the womb. And so she had all this coming at her. She recreated again in her married life.

SPEAKER_06 33:04

Wow.

SPEAKER_05 33:05

And eventually figured it out. He and she fit she finally had let go of him and she had divorced him after 27 years and seven kids just because he wasn't gonna change, but she knew what she needed to do. So she figured out the life lesson. She figured out it was a really cool transformation watching her figure that out. So it's cool that you're doing this work and how you're using you know these tools to help people become aware of.

SPEAKER_07 33:28

Yeah, so you're talking about seven children. I also have seven children, so that's uh yeah. Are they also the players? They no, no, they're not, they're not. Yeah, it's and yeah, you can come to very surprising things. Like one day I had this man, he had huge heart problems, and he went to like three hospitals, but they couldn't find anything. That's why he went to three hospitals. The hospital A couldn't find anything, yeah. But I do have this problem, and then hospital B couldn't find any hospital. So I scanned him, and it was quite clear because the conscious scan technology said there's a huge burden with 5G technology. And so I saw an electromagnetic resonance in his heart, and then I asked him, Do you put your phone in your jacket? And like you have a jacket on now, eh? And so some men put their phone in that jacket. Where does it go? The phone, it goes on the heart. And eight hours, sometimes ten hours a day, yeah, when you are in office and they keep that jacket on. So this is a very strong electromagnetic device. Your heart is electromagnetic. When you make an ECG, you make an electrocardiogram. So there was this huge interference, and he was not aware of it. And then, of course, the phone communicates with Wi-Fi, it communicates with 3G, 4G, 5G, C thousand, and it's all around the most vital organ of your life. And I was totally shocked that people are not aware of that. That's I think how many people are totally, totally not connected with nature anymore and with their inner knowing, and that they even voluntarily wear a heavy electromagnetic machine on the most vital part for eight to ten hours voluntarily. It was not voluntarily. He did it voluntarily. And of course, uh, you have to be compassionate also with this person because you don't know until you know. So then he became conscious. So I said, please remove that phone. Don't ever wear it on your body again. And three weeks later I scanned him again, and his heart was also like a sun. It was all yellowed, it was totally balanced, and he was smiling, he was so happy. And yeah, it was just this simple thing. Remove the phone, and his heart was better. And that's a a doctor cannot find this out because they they generally don't even know about radiation, or they will dismiss it, or something between the ears, because they haven't studied it on the Rockefeller universities, like they didn't have studied the nutrition, so they don't really know what to do. Of course, you have a good intention. All these doctors have a good intention, this, but some things they just don't know. And so that's let me tell you let me tell you a story.

SPEAKER_05 36:06

Yeah, 5G started coming out in 2020. Yours truly got invited to a call in 2020 about the new 5G technology and just started deploying in our city. And make a long story short, these towers. So my friend Hank went into AFib. Tower went on up 1,900 feet from his house, and he's been in AFib 20 times. And we're seeing AFib rates go up. I mean, skyrocketed since those towers started going up. And so many people are injured. I had a gal on the sh in our clinic, we helped her a lot. I think people with more heavy metals, more yeast candida are gonna be even more affected. So we helped detoxify that. But there's about 35% of the world population super sensitive to these new frequencies. We should not even be deploying at all. But definitely AFib. I've seen AFib rates go poof. My friend Hank had to put special paint, special screening on his windows. Or he's either move, and he already moved once, and towers aren't going away. So yeah, this this AFib rate is very concerning. And of course, the cell tower companies cannot be sued for the health effects of damage caused by their towers. They're immune from liability, just like the vaccine makers. And so they got immune from liability that needs to be changed. But uh, yeah, and then but the other the other thing I was gonna I was gonna thought you were gonna go to is what we've seen here with heart, you know, besides the 5G and all that, is uh that's you know of course that's the love, right? So broken heart. We've seen people who've lost the love of their life or they've lost been through a divorce and they've had our heart issues. So sometimes that's the emotional trigger as well.

SPEAKER_07 37:30

Absolutely. That's so interesting because I saw uh sometimes you really see like this wall built around the heart. When it's kin people, then you see in the lungs like a defense mechanism around the heart. It's really to protect the heart because they were they have experienced a broken heart, but then it's stressed around the heart, and then for example, uh it gives also the psychopathology of myocardiostrophy and with a certain probability, and then it's a heart theme of heartbroken, exactly as you were explaining, and of course, heart coherence will will be very beneficial then, and breathing through the heart, self-compassion, self-love, breathing out to the world. Yeah, I see that a lot also in in the scan, absolutely. And what I see also a lot is in the arteries, in the in the brain, so many people I see pressure in the arteries, and then it says arterial hypertension in the conscious scan, and that's because most western people, I think here in the Philippines, they're so relaxed. It's amazing when I compare it to the Netherlands. It's people are just so relaxed and cheerful and so helpful, and uh they they but in the Netherlands and in most of the Western world, we are so busy constantly, which gives this pressure in the arteries, uh in the head, of course, in other parts as well. But I see it a lot in the head, and then for example, the Shavasena, uh the the corpse pose in yoga is very beneficial over it because I saw that with the CEO of Philips Netherlands, which is a multinational, and he's he was the the chief executive officer of that Netherlands uh division, and he had this huge stress in the arteries. And then I and then I only advised him very simple to do 10 minutes a day the shaftsna, and that you lie down on the floor like a death corpse, and not on a bed but on the hard floor, and just he put up some nice music and did that 10 minutes a day, and then also his blood pressure and his arteries really went so much better, and there was so much life again in him. But it's a typical thing I see a lot, and what I also see a lot is in the pancreas is fear, fear of the future, and especially financial future, because people will come in this stress triangle where they produce adrenaline because they think hey they will be fired, for example, as an irrational thought. Then, of course, the body produces glucose because the body thinks hey, there's a tiger behind me, I have to run, so I need uh fuel, glucose, and then the pancreas needs to produce insulin to get this glucose into the cells. And then the pancreas gets really tired from stress, and then I see this energy loss in the pancreas, and it's very much when people are afraid of the future of possible war or economic things or financial things, and that's also a huge problem I see a lot in the scan, is fear. It costs so much energy.

SPEAKER_05 40:18

Yeah, which is what I like about the heart coherence is that you get to put that emotion of gratitude or love or thankfulness, like you mentioned earlier, and and putting that into your body and expressing that through your cells, you know, changes immediately what's going on in there. That's just so powerful. Do you have a picture of this that we can share? This is a scanning tool. Do you have a can we?

SPEAKER_07 40:36

I can put a link maybe in the show notes so that people can have a look if they want to the website, and they can I can also do like uh a 15% discount uh 15 for your listeners and viewers if you want to even experience a conscious scan. Or I also have a monthly free masterclasses if people want to become a conscious scan coach, uh like a therapist or not therapeutic doctors or mental well-being coaches or vitality coaches. So the masterclass is free. So if you want to discover it in that way, they maybe I can put it in your show notes somewhere. Uh they'd be great. Yeah, what's what is your website? You have a website? Yeah, it's it's wwwconscious.com and it's with a z. So it's not conscious with an S but with a Z. It's a playful element because the name Conscious was already taken, and I had to pay like $250,000 if I wanted to use that name. So then I made it a Z, and now people like it because it stands out a little bit more when you do conscious with a Z with a Z. So it's conscious.com. Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_05 41:37

Well, but for you guys listen on the radio, we'll put that all in the show notes over at whole bodydetalkshow.com. And and they know, so they'll be able to join your master class and reach out to you via that website, right?

SPEAKER_07 41:47

Yes, absolutely. Yeah, that's uh that's the easiest part to contact me if they are.

SPEAKER_05 41:51

Wow, I know I'm so choked up. So they want to work with you directly, just go visit the website and if a one-on-one session is a free consultation, and then what do you charge for those? What's that look like?

SPEAKER_07 42:01

Yeah, so a conscious scan session, uh, we have a body-mind scan of one hour, and I also do like uh journeys. And like have a vitality scan journey is five sessions of one hour, and where we every three weeks we make a new scan. People go ahead with the nutrition with all the insights they gain from the scan, and then they uh just and we can also make like frequencies, and we also do audiophiles, totally personalized Dr. Rye frequencies, professor Cariella frequencies, which is called the bioregulation module. So with audio files to balance the organs, and then we scan again. Hey, see now the liver is more balanced, and after three months, people really make good uh progress. Uh, and so that's a journey, a vitality scan journey. I also do a live scan journey where people learn to redesign their life, and so everything around us is designed. The the chair you are sitting on, the glasses you're wearing, the computer you are looking at, the microphone. So everything is first designed before it was produced. And some people forget that you can design the most important thing in your life, which is your life. And then we invite them to invite to design their life on 11 parts, like their spiritual life, their intellectual life, their love life, their parenting, their character, their things they want to experience, etc. And then also with the scan, and we make make them more imbalanced, and so they really can manifest this new life, and they can also follow it actually on the scan, and they make a live lifebook out of it, they make a vision board, etc. And then we have the mental scan journey. That's what I mostly do with elite sports people and with CEOs and people and corporations, but also people who just need it and work more and more with private people. That's the mental resilience. Then you learn like six mental tools like visualization, thought training, focus, uh, action reflection, goal setting based on what we see also in the scan.

SPEAKER_05 44:00

So that's you can take a you can do my body scan. So our business here, you can body scan my body and based upon what our what we want our business to do, you can give recommendations off of that. Is that what I hear you saying?

SPEAKER_07 44:12

Yeah. Yeah. And so we follow it in a in a five session process. And so you learn techniques based on what we see in a scan. And let's say for example if you need heart coherence because we see the autonomic nervous system is stressed. And then we could say hey heart coherence or it might be another thing which people need in the vitality scan journey or on a mental level. So all the interventions are totally personalized based on what we see in the scan. Fascinating. Yeah that's what people say most of them really are flabbergasted. That's the word I hear so much when I've done a scan people are wow I'm flabbergasted. That's I have heard that word so many times.

SPEAKER_05 44:53

Yeah yeah you know what's interesting we have so much knowledge at our fingertips. It's just that we're so distracted at the at the stuff we shouldn't be paying attention to and we should get focused more on our human our own first us personally heal yourself first so then you can heal humanity and then we need to go out and and dissolve these crazy wars with you know our consciousness and our our heart coherence our love our our gratitude and and Lynn McTaggart that's the scientist I was thinking of you know she actually used the heart coherence. Did you read her books? Yeah absolutely I read her books yeah yeah remember the part where she uh they went and they focused on a war and the war actually stopped for a while yeah it was pretty cool.

SPEAKER_07 45:31

Yeah absolutely and so that's what the Heartmeth Institute is doing with this global coherence initiative when when somewhere is a conflict is going on to send heartfelt energy to that specific spot and they measure things now to get I think with some kind of NASA technology even which is very sensitive. And so they're doing really cool stuff with the Heartmeth Institute right now. And so yeah that's also known as in the in the transcendental meditation you have the the Maharishi effect so this was a huge study done in Washington where like 500 top yogis of the transcendental meditation is meditation where you use a mantra to go deep down into the unified field and they measured the criminal the criminal figures in Washington before and after three months of these top yogis meditating in a big sports hall in Washington. And yeah the municipality was very skeptical and but the thing okay they pay themselves they rent a sports hall so what nothing wrong they just sit on a mat they don't do anything they know they don't do harm but the thing was after three months statistically significant the criminal figures went down 40% in Washington and they and it was statistically applied directed to those yogis being in this meditation and so what scientifically happens is that they diminished they diluted the stress so for example when you have syrup in a glass and you the more water you add and the less you see the syrup. Same here so if you dilute the stress by giving high coherence love energy to it and the stress dissolves and so that's what's happened and that's happened they called it the Maharishi effect so and it means if the square root of one percent of a group meditates it benefits the whole group so let's say you have 1600 people just to make it easy one percent is 16 and the square root of of that is four people so from a group of 1600 people if you have four people which can deeply meditate and send this heartfelt energy to the whole group then the whole group statistically significant will experience that so we only need the square root of 1% of the whole earth to be in this high consciousness state and to heal help heal the world that's amazing it's called the Maharishi effect.

SPEAKER_05 47:52

Yes thank you for sharing that I was I was driving down the road the other day and I remembered that statistic I go because I figured up in Idaho I thought we can change Idaho a population we're about 1.8 1.9 million people yeah yeah yeah I think I came down to the number of like 120 people I if I remember the the the numbers does that sound about right to you we've been talking with Daniel Zavrell of consciouswithaze.com he has a device where he can scan your body and kind of look see what's going on within your body you can check him out at consciouswithaze.com I'll put all of his links and his information in our show notes on our podcast at whole bodydetalkshow.com or just type in whole body detox show wherever you get your podcast, Spotify, Apple, etc and over on our website at livingwaterscleanse.com. While you're at the podcast, give us a review and subscribe so you get all our updates. I love watching miracles happen. I especially love watching them happen in you. You have the ability to heal anything we've proven it over and over and over again. We love to show you how you can heal your own body naturally here's what a few of our clients have shared with us.

SPEAKER_03 48:54

Hi my name is Jennifer I've come to Living Waters the for this 10 day cleanse. I have had some symptoms of just being kind of lethargic my system not being as energized as it could be and I'm also dealing with uh healing from uh retinal tear surgery so I feel like I've made some good progress in those last few days during the cleanse having a chance to flush my uh toxins out and learn lots of different strategies both mentally physically and emotionally to move forward and I'm excited about coming back and maintaining those cleanses and doing another liver detox eventually and just keeping on a great healthy path.

SPEAKER_02 49:30

Thank you Living waters hi my name is Anna Lewis and I came to do the 10 day cleanse because I hadn't been feeling really well and so I could cleanse, get rid of parasites and toxins in my body and did those were great help.

SPEAKER_05 49:42

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SPEAKER_07 51:30

We got to clean up those politicians and all the deep state geez absolutely and so beautiful David that you did these kind of things I mean I think you do really beautiful things out there when I hear you talking and when I read some things about what you're doing. So I think we need people like you more and more and more in the world and also by this podcast making people conscious I think you're doing a great job on that field.

SPEAKER_05 51:55

Also in the collective so at 8 p.m mountain time you're an hour so 8 p.m is 9 a.m Filipino time right well let's say it's it's 6 30 in the morning here now so maybe that's good to know yes 4 30 here so you're two hours ahead plus 12. Okay well you and I should probably put together a group we should just I'll I can put a link on my website we can do a zoom and we need to do this we need to fix I'm just so this crazy war that and all these kids are you know Gaza the limit this that upsets me every single day and I thought you know David you've got to get a link we've got to start praying for these people because that's the only way we're gonna change it. Absolutely absolutely I mean I called my congressman this week but you know he's gonna come back well you know we got to be over there and Israel's our greatest ally don't you know? I mean we've been giving them billions of dollars and look what they've done for us. Their technology is amazing. No we don't figure out we figured out we've been lied to for what 67 years.

SPEAKER_07 52:45

Yeah yeah and and David yeah I also hear you talking about the deep state is that something uh where most Americans are aware of or not at all is that that's this Illuminati thing in deep states a small group controlled thing yeah I would say yeah there's the the people are waking up I would say that there are quite a few people that are aware but there's a huge proportion of the population that doesn't want to hear it right like my staff here I I will come in I'll start talking about something and they're looking at me like what the hell are you talking about?

SPEAKER_05 53:15

And so they're not they don't want to know. Because it it is it's overwhelming. Look at I've been looking at the conspiracy stuff since the 1990s. I think like it's refreshing finally everyone realizes Alex Jones was right. And I think that's just hilarious because back in the 90s people told me I was crazy but look what's happened to us and we can't keep going the way we're going. And so I think I don't know on my X thread you know the people I follow gigs up man the people are upset. I would say 70% of America is anyway that are in that arew are like no we're done with Israel. We're done with you know give these people money to go entangle us and then you know we're paying for it and they're money laundering back to the senators and congressmen who keep themselves getting elected and yeah it's just crazy. So I think the one way to fix it is you know God Jesus Holy Spirit us praying us doing this hard attention is the only way we're gonna solve this in my opinion.

SPEAKER_07 54:04

Absolutely so how many what what percentage of Americans do you think is a little bit awake to this matters?

SPEAKER_05 54:10

Well I would say years ago it was five percent I would say today it's probably 50% maybe 25 I don't know 30 let's see maybe let me must hold let me think about this for a minute.

SPEAKER_07 54:19

I'd say 50% that's encouraging isn't it but then the but when 50% is aware then step by step they they they should have should be able to change it.

SPEAKER_05 54:28

Well but okay again how many people are going to take action to do something about it. Yeah about 50% are willing to do something to to do something about it right yeah and I think that's many people which is that's quite a good figure. I mean that's a pretty good figure. It's a good figure I would say 20 years ago it was three percent.

SPEAKER_07 54:43

Yeah so many people still prefer this ignorant bliss of course so then and that's something which sometimes is also handy yeah just stay in your ignorant bliss and because I have to say when I first found out so my discovery into this rabbit hole came via do you have you heard about David Icke?

SPEAKER_05 55:02

I was just gonna say that David Icke. Yes I met him back I yes 1998 99 I heard of David Icke and he was pretty angry back then.

SPEAKER_07 55:09

Yeah that's why I first learned of David Icke yes yeah so when I first uh went into his books I was also totally shocked like your worldview gets gets shattered in a way and then I also dove dove deeper into this better and yeah so it's really really amazing if you think that might be other entities than earthly beings and even interesting in in his point of view of David Ike we are being dominated by by a reptilian race instead of humans and they are they have hybrid lines and like this 1% is actually being in his point of view being controlled by these reptilian entities and but the funny thing is now in the US disclosure comes more and more so there's more and more of this UFO theme and Trump releases all these UFO files. So I think there's a fascinating things going on but that's scary for people if it's true that we will be that actually we are governed and held like animals by a reptilian race like which control us. That's not a fun thing to hear is it? No have you been to a Dr.

SPEAKER_05 56:15

Joe Dispenser event I know Joe Despenser quite well from his books I have not been to an event of his okay all right uh well I don't know if I'm gonna you know people go to about 1800 people attend and there are some healing sessions where we're using our hands for his energy fascinating energy in the room. Well anyway let's just say there's some some people show up to help with the healings. Yeah yes and uh I won't go any farther than that because people then probably say David you're crazy. But anyway uh you know we're all energy and I you know I just amazing we have the ability we're made with God's image that's my belief and we have the ability to change this with our with our own energy and our own healing and our own love and our own coherence and yeah I think that's important David because let's say and that if these reptilians were true and they operate on a low frequency like the feet of guilt, fear, anger.

SPEAKER_07 57:02

So if you raise your frequency and more from the heart and then you can transcend all these low frequencies.

SPEAKER_05 57:09

Of course it's hard work it's inner work spiritual world but I think and you can even have compassion to these beings if they exist because it's quite it's quite something if you need to control other people and how sad is that well and that you get to add this great example I just had a gal in just two days ago she did our cleanse back in March I think it was severe anxiety been hospitalized many times uh couldn't sleep and she had a lot of parasites coming out and she just she came in the day she looked like the sun walking through the door big smile skin looks great her anxiety about day four three or four her anxiety had like she started she faculty slept through the night for the first time in a long time on day three or four. Gets you off the cleanse I mean she looks good she's feeling good pain's gone whatever else stuff was going on but she just told me the day I just taped this I haven't put this on the internet yet she goes David I don't give any any power to the word anxiety I don't even call it that anymore I have not had any events since the cleanse in fact she says if I start to have a little doubt or whatever I call it noodles. So my kids we call it noodles she says I'll do positive affirmations you know we taught her the heart math but she says the other day I had an issue and I stood up and what did she say she says I stood up and I says demon be gone and the demon left wow she looked amazing so it's just so cool to see her come to the awareness and be open to that possibility and not be a victim of you know she had some stuff happen to her and you know for a while she was a victim and she decided to change her life and not be the victim. Which that's the first step, right? You gotta stop being a victim. But it's cool to see them these parasites they're entities they're they're they can be as bad as you want to let them be. So that was cool to see that but it was what what a change and yeah we just need more of that love and coherence in the world for sure.

SPEAKER_07 58:54

Yeah I think also that the heart as I think David Ike mentions that as well is is actually the way out of this matrix. And so because this matrix is a play of the trick in the mind and I find that so comforting and that when you go deeply into the heart which is your place of safety and the heart in itself is always peaceful and positive because stress is made by thoughts in the brain. So when I go back to the heart and when people return back to the heart and do the heart coherence breathing you immediately escape the matrix and because that's something it's no being can ever touch. You're a sovereign being they try but they cannot touch the heart they can touch the brain and they can influence that but they cannot touch your inner being your heart because you're this divine sovereign being and so I think that's the way out for most people had to raise your frequency from the heart with yourself then to the group then to your village then to your town then to the earth and then the frequency will be so high that all these lower frequencies will just dissolve like in Washington. So I think this is actually a very important thing and you what you were just saying about this woman with anxiety is just a good example of that. And that she kind of transformed or neutralized a little bit more and more step by step this anxiety.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:09

We had you know my transformation or my my part of my journey I got baptized get this I got baptized in the Catholic Church in Croatia in 1989. It's a whole story. But anyway you know I was I was raised first in the Dutch Christian reform church because my as I told you earlier we started the show my granddad came from Holland right yeah and he was Dutch Christian reform in Grangeville and by golly as you know the Spaniards and the Dutch were at odds for many years and he was anti-Catholic period. So it's kind of funny that I got baptized there his whole story but my point of my story is as in my journey we had a guy that came and that we he babysat for us for a hot moment back years ago. Anyway we met and then he went on his life and he ended up we learned that he got divorced and and so forth and he was kind of homeless at the time so he says hey we need help we need we're raising three kids can you why don't you come in and live our house we got an extra bedroom and so he did and and then uh talking to him one day and he revealed that he see when every time he goes to church he sees all the angels. Oh wow I go what he goes yeah they're everywhere David I go really which makes sense right but at the same time so every time I'm in church now I have it's not been revealed to me but he says oh yeah they're everywhere the angels are everywhere you don't see them David he's like no George I don't see them but great no that's a good thing that's a good thing.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:21

I know yeah well some people would freak out I think probably if they could see them if they could see them yeah yeah yeah probably yeah yeah but for him it's just like well yeah isn't that normal? Yeah wow that's that's a great story well at Dr.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:34

Joe Dispenza event there's been some of those things occur uh they don't advertise it right but but yeah I've I've heard some stories pretty cool of people being healed you know it's it's just amazing what we've been what's been covered up for centuries you know when they revealed the Dead Sea Scrolls you know they kept those secret for a number of years and and all this information had there's a series of there's a book series I read Dr. Joe Dispenser one day he said he he he's going along and and I at that time 2016 17 I was listening to a lot of him and Greg Braden and uh Bruce Lipton who wrote the book was his book. Biology of belief. Biology of belief yes so anyway I I learned about Joe and he mentioned one day this book called Master Teachers of the Far East have you heard of it? Yeah I love that book that's amazing that's a classic one it was yeah I think that's 1925 based upon a series of events for those listening in 1895 it's a six volume series but I shared that with my son when he was going through a very very difficult time and he was not very let's say wasn't going to church any of those things not very spiritual but definitely kind of woke him up and got him more attuned just listening to what you know those course events those scientists did it was mind blowing mind boggling and so anyway he just happened to mention that and I wrote it down very quickly and then went and got the books but yeah very there's just so many things that was that we've been covered that's been covered up and we've not been allowed to see it's just nuts.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:55

Absolutely and that book is so beautiful because what you're saying it's it's science and then also they talk about these masters of 500 to 600 years old in Himalayas and then they master could dematerialize himself and then there was this control group like let's say four villages away which would take by foot like five days in that time and they could just like Star Trek they could demith materialize and then materialize on another place. So yeah in that sense we you can have total control of your mind and body I think we are we're not there at all.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:30

But when you last yeah but think about this there's been movies made of Padre Pio are you familiar from the Saint Padre Pio I know no well that's part of the reason why I am Italian Italian Italian part of he he had the he had the stigmata in his hands he could locate he could be in two places at once Padre Pio really they did several movies on Padre Pio yeah wow yeah so there's so if I could meet a saint I would go I'd want to meet him oh wow yeah so there's so much to discover and it's really encouraging to know that we have all these abilities and that we have so much potential yet to awaken. I agree I agree and the only thing that's holding us back is the mainstream media and that's why my wife threw the television out of the home in night 2000.

SPEAKER_07 1:04:11

Okay yeah yeah yeah we decided we didn't want a sewer pipe coming into the house the television yeah it's yeah a program uh television program yeah program tell a vision tell a vision yeah television to do programming it's absolutely program yeah yeah yeah yeah no we gotta laugh at ourselves at at the at the crazy that we have allowed to can that we've allowed to become a part of us and that we believe is is what you know for example I had a guy maybe and this is a good question for you uh well you mentioned yoga for some people in the Christian world my gosh can't do yoga that's of the devil that's new agey and I and I always ask the question what the hell's new age wasn't Jesus New Age 2025 years ago I don't know but what what's your what what's your thought what do you say to people who says oh my gosh yoga that's that's that's not good that's bad well I I think that uh Jesus was a yogi he was a yogi I think there's a lot of stories that he all his wisdom came from his travels in the east he went to yogic masters and stuff and he uh he was a yogi so actually the the end purpose of yoga and christianity is the same to awaken and that you realize like that uh what what what christians say yeah or what Jesus said the kingdom of God is inside you it's inside you it's not out there it's inside you and actually actually with yogi you do exactly the same you just come back home and divine and and discover the kingdom is inside you so it's a different path but the way is the sample. So like when you would do a deep prayer you come in kind of a meditative state. So if you either use a mantra which brings you to the unified field and which you could go to God or you do it by by praying to Jesus or whatever it brings you to the same thing. So in the end you go you go To this unified field, which is the divine energy, which is everywhere. Like it's this high intelligence which directs our body, which makes the plants grow, which makes the whole galaxy flow and grow. It's and as every spiritual path is to make more connection with that. The paths are endless. If you do it in a shamanistic way, it will bring you there. If you do it in a Jewish way, it brings you there. If you make it in a Buddhist way or in a Christian way or in a yogic way, it doesn't matter. I think the only way which only thing which withholds you is your dogmatic beliefs. That's the real enemy. Is that you think it should be in a certain way because thinking is between you and the divine. So if you if you transcend the thinking, it's like also in quantum physics. You have the the material world, a body, then you go into the cell, then you go deeper, you go into the uh atoms, you go into the quarks, and then finally, what Einstein said, physics go and dissolve in metaphysics. Einstein said it. So in the end, we all get to this unified field, and it doesn't matter what name you call it, if you call it the divine or God or um the universal intelligence, it's it's exactly it's what you are in essence, it's what Jesus finds out, and the kingdom of God is inside you, and you are one with the Father, is you are one with everything. And so if you realize that you are just part of this divine sparkle and that you can raise your conscience, like these masters in the Far East have realized that they were talking with Jesus, these masters in the books that all Jesus was a master, but there were so many masters. It's not only Jesus, he was a yes, he was a very advanced master, but there have been so many advanced masters which were saying exactly the same, maybe in a different way, and they all point to the kingdom inside you. And so I think it's that the real enemy is dogma, and that you and and then fighting other people for your dogma, like fighting like like all these cruciates, is it's fighting dogmas. It's amazing, I think, how dogmas can put your mind in a in a prison state. And I think especially Jesus was pointing to that as well. And he was not dogmatic at all. And then it became a story, and then people believe a story and they will give their life for that story. Yeah, and Muslims the same, they will give their life if you say something about Muhammad or something. Well, but it's a story. Allah doesn't didn't say that. Or Mohammed, they were masters and they were pointing to this unified field. So I think that's if if we just allow ourselves that there are different ways leading to universal love, because that's what it is. I mean, if it's not love where it's leading you to, I think you're not on the right path. So it should make you a light being, a compassionate being, total bliss being, because that's what divine energy is. And if you then also, if you are in that field, you get the knowing of the universe and the universal laws, and maybe you can materialize and dematerialize or walk through fire and stuff, as Jesus has done, as the masters in the Far East have done, in the end, everybody can do it. Um so if you make a source out of you too big, you make yourself too small, and it will be harder to get to that source. And so I think it's uh yeah, dogma is a real uh real problem.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:21

Yeah, we I think as human beings, we it's pretty easy for us to become followers and not to become independent thinking and open to that because we want to be liked and we get into groups to be liked, and if you don't follow that group exactly, I think the like the Nazarene church, as I recall, they didn't want you to go into dances. So everyone had these all these rules.

SPEAKER_07 1:09:42

Yeah, and you can see it in the group. But for example, okay, you're born in, let's say, Israel, and then you you appear with some kind of curl hair, maybe with a certain head on your face, and then that's what you believe. But then you're born like a Buddhist monk, and you appear to wear an orange robe, and then you appear to to be born in a Muslim cult. You have a long beard and you wear like a robe, and that's what you believed in. So it's also depending on where you were born, and that's that's your belief system, that that becomes your dogma. But it will take you fur if you make that dogma a thing, it will really bring you really further away from your spirituality if you don't transcend the dogma. If you do, if you you so you get I I think you can get enlightened with all of these religious streams. As long as you transcend and you go deep down, deeper, deeper, deeper, deeper, then you can become enlightened by the Islam, you can become enlightened with the Buddhism, with Christianity, with Jewism, with yoga. It's if you really follow that path, because all these paths were given by masters in the end.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:48

Yeah, yeah, I gotta wonder what would it be like to gather key leaders from all those groups with all their different dogmas, put them in a room and have them do a little heart coherence and do a little meditation and start and express love and gratitude amongst each other. Even my mom, so when I was a kid, this is what popped my brain. When I was a kid, we get in trouble. You know, I'd, you know, my sister and I get in trouble, and my mom would make us sit in the corner and hold hands. Maybe that's when you do it with all these leaders, make them sit in the corner and hold hands.

SPEAKER_07 1:11:13

Yeah, that's what you say, Dave. So once you're in the heart and the mind disappears, there is no dogma. And there's just silence, there's just love, there's just this presence, there's just this full emptiness, which is in the essence. And when you've surpassed all the thoughts and the thinking, and when you're in this kind of samadhi state, then it doesn't matter. Then you're all one. And uh that's what all the religions in the end point to. Well, oneness, awareness, consciousness.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:39

You know, I've had I've had people come through our 10-day healing retreat over the years, and we don't, we don't get into religion. We don't, I don't care. I've had atheists, LDS, you know, Catholics, all the different Protestant religions. I've had atheists, agnostics, whatever. I've had them all. And we don't, we don't for some reason people think we get into that. We don't. We just teach you the emotional, mental, spiritual, and physical parts, and you what you do with it's up to you. But you know, there's been some people that really stood out to me that have came to me and I always ask if they were open to giving a testimony about what their experience was like. And I remember a couple people in particular. One said, Dave, I've been going to church for 70 years. She says, I never really felt any connection until after this cleanse. Uh I now get my connection to God, Jesus, Holy Spirit. I find I get that connection now. I says, Well, how'd that happen? She says, I don't know. She says, I don't know how it happened. But I believe, you know, when we again gut centered, all these the vagus nerve, all these nerve endings go and land in the gut. You clean that out and get those parasitic beings out. I think that makes a huge difference. The other gal, she'd been to lots of retreats, kind of similar story. She says, Yeah, I just feel connected to everything and everyone. I says, Well, how'd that happen? She goes, I don't know, but it feels great.

SPEAKER_07 1:12:45

It's okay. Well, I guess our job is done here. Yeah, I think that uh spirituality is just science of happiness. So how to how to be happy. And I really think that a lot of these religions came from the matrix. It's it's a way of keeping people imprisoned in their mind instead of freeing them from their minds.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:04

It's I used to be angry a lot, and I just made a decision that rather than getting upset and cussing and yelling and screaming, I would just laugh. And now, you know, I make a lot of mistakes during the day. I should fire myself a lot, but I just start laughing. So I'm at my new my mantra's been if you're not laughing, you're not living. So uh I just you know good point. Good point. Trip over something, forget something, gotta go back and get it. Shoot, I didn't get that at the store. I just start laughing at myself.

SPEAKER_07 1:13:29

Yeah, that's a good point, uh David. Love that.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:32

We're only on this earth for a short time, my friend. So we gotta make it. We might as well make it a happy occasion, that's for sure. Absolutely, absolutely. Awesome. Well, anything else you want anything we missed?

SPEAKER_07 1:13:42

No, I don't think so. I think we had a really extensive talk, so we covered uh yeah, I think so many things already. Great. Send me an email with all your contact information.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:50

We'll put that in the show notes and on the it's this will also be on the KIDO talk radio, so we'll also announce it on the radio when we so it's it's two different venues. So you got kind of a two for one today. Wow, that's nice. That's nice. Yeah, KIDO Talk Radio, they're well known. They've got an app, people listen to us all over the world on the radio and in here in the Treasure Valley on 580 a.m. So yeah. Well, thanks. Come on. We got a we let's we got let's let's unite brainstorm behind the scenes here and figure out how maybe we can do some Zoom calls and get some people on. Let's get that one percent on a Zoom call. Let's change these wars. Excellent idea. Awesome. All right, David De Haas from Living Waters on the Old Buy Detalk Show. Until next week, have a blessed week, my friends.