281. Digestive Enzymes Explained: The Root Cause of Acid Reflux, Leaky Gut, Bloating & Chronic Inflammation | Dr. Milton Bastidas

SPEAKER_01 0:00

All right, let's talk about enzymes, doc. First of all, what are enzymes? Why do we have them in our body? Why do we want to use enzyme supplements? Let's start there.

SPEAKER_02 0:08

Sure thing. So enzymes are happen due to enzyme activity. So they're energy-rich proteins. Our body makes them. We also find them in nature. Helps that to happen. We wouldn't be alive. Your body uses enzymes in order to get from point A to point B when we're speaking about physiology and biochemistry, for example, testosterone into estrogen or vice versa. There's a metabolic enzyme that usually energy-rich uh proteins that are found in nature. Our own body makes enzymes. As a matter of fact, without enzymes, we wouldn't be able to live. In any, a lot of the uh neurotransmitters, hormones, biological processes in foods such as fruits, uh, vegetables, and they uh we're also able to use them to help us digest. Our pancreas uh pancreas uh makes uh our digestive enzymes, which allow us to break down the macromolecules into micronutrients in order for you to convert so that they can then come into the circulation, be carried to cells, are in their molecular components, such as amino acids, lipids, insexual fatty acids. Our cells then take those nutrients and create more tissue or are used to repair, regenerate, and that's pretty much what an enzyme is.

SPEAKER_01 1:39

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SPEAKER_02 3:45

Well, thank you for having me, Mr. De Haas. It's a pleasure to be here to speak about one of the things that I'm very passionate about, and that is how to apply enzymes to uh in clinical practice.

SPEAKER_01 3:56

Excellent. And by the way, I see here you are a soccer guy.

SPEAKER_02 4:01

Yes, I am. As a matter of fact, I uh was able to go uh through college uh playing soccer, one of my uh best times of my life, so I deeply enjoy it. Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_01 4:10

All right, and so I assume did you coach as well?

SPEAKER_02 4:13

I did a little bit of coaching, you know, especially for my little one when uh, you know, he was uh learning how to play, but I'd rather play than the coach.

SPEAKER_01 4:22

All right. Well, I didn't know anything about soccer growing up. My kids got into soccer, and so I took all the coaching courses, learned out everything about soccer, and I coached all my kids all the way up, did adult soccer, all that. And then I refereed at the highest level in our state, high school, did some championship games, a lot of fun, got me in really good shape, but I'm so busy today I can't go out on the pitch and do that. So uh well, good. That's awesome. That is awesome. What'd you think of that red card situation? You watch that?

SPEAKER_02 4:50

Yeah, well, you know, uh now that they have the uh a video assist referee, you know, it adds just another layer, uh, and sometimes it may complicate uh the game. I wish they would have just left it alone as it was. You know, it it's part of the game to have drama, to have, you know, things that are in doubt, but now with the video assist referee, it's it's actually a double-edged sword, you know. It can be a good thing and then it can turn out to be a bad thing, like we've seen in some instances in this World Cup.

SPEAKER_01 5:18

Right, right. All right, let's talk about enzymes, Doc. First of all, what are enzymes? Why do we have them in our body? Why do we want to use enzyme supplements? Let's start there.

SPEAKER_02 5:28

Sure thing. So enzymes are energy-rich uh proteins that are found uh in nature. Uh our own body makes enzymes. As a matter of fact, without enzymes, we wouldn't be able to live. We wouldn't be alive. Your body uses enzymes in order to get from point A to point B when we're speaking about physiology and biochemistry. Uh, for example, in order for you to convert testosterone into estrogen or vice versa, there's a metabolic enzyme that usually helps uh that to happen. A lot of the uh neurotransmitters, hormones, and any biological processes are happen due to enzyme activity. So they're energy-rich proteins, our body makes them. We also find them in nature, in foods uh such as fruits, uh, vegetables, and they uh we're also able to use them to help us digest. Our pancreas uh pancreas uh makes uh our digestive enzymes, which allow us to break down the macromolecules into micronutrients so that they can then come into the circulation, be carried to cells in their molecular components, such as amino acids, lipids, and sexual fatty acids. Our cells then take those nutrients and create more tissue or are used to repair, regenerate, and that's pretty much what an enzyme is.

SPEAKER_01 6:56

Going back to the founder of your great organization, Dickie Fuller, it's kind of an interesting story. You want to share that a little bit? How uh transformation got its start?

SPEAKER_02 7:05

Yes, sir. So Dr. uh Dickie Fuller uh back over 35 years ago founded the company due to a personal story of her own uh with uh her daughter, and from what I understand, uh they had given her daughter uh as a as a as a newborn uh very little time to live. Dr. Dickey began uh researching enzymes, and as to this day, I think over forty after over 40 years, uh her daughter is still alive. Dr. Dickie Fuller also came down with uh several episodes of cancer herself, and with enzyme therapy, she was able to beat cancer more than once. So, out of those personal stories, uh she dug in deep into the research, and here we are uh 35 plus years later as Transformation Enzyme Corporation.

SPEAKER_01 7:56

Yeah, I had a lot of yeast candida, I had a lot of heavy metals in my body. Back in 2004, I met Dr. Hal Huggins and I had those properly removed, but the yeast and the fungus and all that was a battle, and I found that protease product, and I that was amazing. And then I was actually shocked uh some years later, you have a guy who's a great educational portal for us, and I was watching a naturopath talk about cancer patients and prolytic enzymes, and he was talking about how his patients tested for a full bottle per day, and I went, What? And there's no way. And so I began muscle testing. A lot of my clients, they'd come in and you know, going through the intake form and just seeing what was going on and they're sharing, and I would look at them and look at their skin. You know, I'm always assessing what's obvious, right? I started muscle testing myself, and I would have people go, Yeah, they test for 50 a day, 80 a day, 120 a day. I'm going like, whoa. You are obviously pretty toxic. You're obviously uh your liver's got some issues and your blood's pretty, pretty turbid, I think. And how can you tell that? Well, I'm I'm looking at you. One, two, you're testing pretty high for this stuff. It was a fascinating experience for me to just see in real time how that was translating to people before me.

SPEAKER_02 9:12

You know, it's it's interesting that you mentioned how uh people were testing for high amounts of enzymes. And that's one of the uh things about uh enzymes that people need to understand. You know, uh, I usually get asked uh by people and doctors themselves, how many enzymes do you take? Well, like you just mentioned, we're all different.

SPEAKER_01 9:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 9:31

We all have biochemical individuality. You, for example, you may eat a hamburger and I may eat the same hamburger, and you may need one or two digestive enzymes to be able to digest that hamburger properly. Where I would use, I would need maybe three, four, or five because we're both different. But the beautiful thing about enzymes is that they don't accumulate in your tissue, so there's no toxicity issues with them. Your body uses them for what it needs it for, and then either eliminates it or recycles it. So when you're testing uh people and they're coming back uh needing, you know, 20, 30 caps a day, people say, wow, you know, what's gonna happen to me? You know, if I take all those caps, is it gonna make me ill? No. Actually, like I said, your immune system actually grabs it, takes it to sites where it needs help, where there's uh immune challenges, and it just spits it out uh for the enzymes to go to work. They have about a three to four hour half-life. So, like I said, there's no toxicity issue. They don't accumulate in your tissue like vitamins, minerals, and even you know, prescription medication. So it doesn't put a burden on your system like other things might.

SPEAKER_01 10:43

Let's talk about, let's let's kind of back up a little bit. I kind of got ahead of myself, I think, here on the prolytic enzymes. Let's talk about just basic digestion. Why, as we age, do we need enzymes? You know, you got a lot of people on these proton pump inhibitors, they're they have what they call acid reflux, a very bad term, obviously. Let's talk about that and just what's happening in the body and why would we need to take it, especially as we age these enzymes?

SPEAKER_02 11:08

Most definitely. So, you know, naturally we have a the uh decline in our pancreatic function. So pancreatic enzyme capacity after your 20s goes down 10% each decade. That is the reason why you and I used to be able to eat a cow, and two hours later, when we were, you know, 15, 16, 17, 18 year olds, we were able to eat a cow, and two hours later we'd be hungry again because our enzyme, our pancreatic enzyme production capacity was at its optimal. Now I'm 56, so that you know that's after 20s, every decade your enzyme production capacity goes down 10%. So I have a about a 36% less pancreatic enzyme production capacity than I had when I was 18. That's why I can't eat a cow anymore. I don't my pancreas doesn't make as a good enzymes as I used to, and that is because with a naturally with age, pancreas uh function uh decreases, and also because of our lifestyle. There's stress involved, there's uh a lot of more toxins uh involved now, a lot of more preservatives, things that your body has trouble digesting. So that puts a big burden on your pancreas. And for your pancreas to produce an enzyme, it's a huge energy consuming event. So the reason why it's good to supplement with enzymes is that you're giving your pancreas a rest. You're aiding your pancreas to make the amount, first of all, to make the amount it needs to make, but you're supplementing that less capacity that it has now as we age, rather than, you know, the capacity it had back when we were teenagers. Acid reflux, like you mentioned, you know, gastrointestinal, gastroesophageal reflux disease, people using proton pump inhibitors, antacids, those things, what they do is they inhibit acid production in your stomach in order for you to silence the symptoms you get when there is acid reflux. But in the long run, what you're doing is you're creating a bigger problem because acid was designed to be in that uh environment for two major reasons. Number one, to allow you to break down your food into smaller parts so that when it goes into the small intestine, the intestinal enzymes are able to break it down further into its micronutrients. Second role of that stomach acid is to sterilize your food. That way, you know, pathogens uh won't be able to make it into your uh gastrointestinal lining. And another very important function of that stomach acid also is in order for you to uh be able to absorb certain nutrients, calcium, phosphorus, B12, there's certain nutrients that it need stomach acid in order for them to be absorbed. So by eliminating the stomach acid, well, you're not gonna sterilize your food properly, you're not going to break down the food sufficiently, and you're not going to absorb a lot of the nutrients that depend on uh stomach acid in order for them to take and to make it into the circulation. By taking digestive enzymes with a meal, what you're doing is you're helping gastrointestinal function, you're correcting root cause uh conditions at the core. One of the biggest uh immune triggers is undigested proteins making it into the circulation. So when gastrointestinal function is hindered because of stress, because of pathogens, because of medication, because of drugs, because of lack of sleep, et cetera, et cetera, toxins, you know, your digestive capacity is hindered, but undigested proteins start being absorbed into the circulation where about 80% of your immune system lies. And now your immune system says, hey, that macromolecule, it's not a vitamin, it's not a mineral, it's not amino acid. So it launches an immune attack. So the food that you're eating at that point is now triggering an immune reaction. When it should be nourishing you and making you stronger, it's now weakening you because now your immune system sees it as an intruder and not as a nutrient. So by taking digestive enzymes with the meal, you're aiding your pancreas and you're also preventing that immune reaction from undigested proteins, making it into the circulation. So that's one of the biggest reasons why we should all be taking digestive enzymes with our meals.

SPEAKER_01 15:50

Yes, of course, I add to that, uh let your mouth be your blender. Chew, chew, chew. It's the right thing to do. Break it up, let that saliva start the process, and before it gets down to the master blender, your gut, your stomach, yeah, and let those acids. Now, just as also a side note, when well, let me back up. Have you heard the uh I heard this years ago, this got me really hooked to enzymes. This is like 30 years ago. This lady's name is Danielle Kennedy, and she re I was at a big conference and they recited a study about the cats. Do you remember the cat study?

SPEAKER_02 16:21

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 16:22

You want to share it?

SPEAKER_02 16:23

Bottinger's cats? Yes. Yes. Supposedly there was, you know, he took a whole bunch of cats and and some he fed uh processed foods and others he fed raw food. And he found that the cats that ate processed foods uh started dealing with, you know, metabolic syndrome, obesity, lack in reaction time, lack of thriving. Uh whereas the cats that he fed uh raw food, they thrived. They were good, uh ideal body weight, their reaction time was a lot better, they were more active. And also their uh offspring, the offspring from the processed food group uh also dealt with disease, whereas the offspring from the uh raw food group also thrived and uh were very, very healthy. So that opened up a big question as to is our food making us sick and and why? What's the difference between the foods he fed, the cats that ate processed foods and the raw food diet? And the conclusion that he was able to come to was that the raw food preserved all the enzymes and that was more readily, the cats that ate that food were better able to digest that food and extract all the nutrients and amino acids from those foods versus the processed food group. There was no enzymes in it. There was they were not readily digested and they didn't absorb nutrients efficiently. So that's where the difference in the two groups came in. It was the raw food and the enzymes that the raw food contained.

SPEAKER_01 17:58

The other part that was stood out to me was how the uh the cats that had the you know, the dead food, if you will, uh by fifth generation cannot uh reproduce. And the other group, big litters of kittens, and also the dead food group with no enzymes, their hair was falling out, mangy coats and just very lethargic. Whereas the other group was very, very ambitious and rambunctious and so forth.

SPEAKER_02 18:22

Right, right, yes.

SPEAKER_01 18:26

So many people, you know, walking around, especially if you go to these memory care facilities or assisted living centers, they're feeding them first processed food. Yes. No one's taking enzymes and they're kind of laying around and they're not functioning well, and there's a lot of people like that.

SPEAKER_02 18:39

So the amount of drugs they're they're put under as well, it's it's it's amazing how much stuff they have to take in, and you know, uh new nutrition and enzymes is not even thought about.

SPEAKER_01 18:51

Well, the other thing is, too, is if you're not getting them, your pancreas is overworking, right? Right and look at our incident of pancreatic cancer today.

SPEAKER_02 18:59

Right. Yeah, it's got I mean, our pancreas is responsible for making not only enzymes, but also a whole lot of other things. So when burdened the digestive tract and your pancreas has to work overtime in order to produce the amount of enzymes needed to digest everything that we're eating, then it takes its focus away from the other things that the pancreas is also designed to do in order to concentrate all its efforts into digesting the things we're eating. And if those things that we're eating are, you know, the standard American diet, uh, along with the biggie size type of scenario, then that's a huge burden, not only on your GI tract, but on your pancreas as well. Add that little bit of age as we get older, and it's just a perfect storm for conditions to arise.

SPEAKER_01 19:45

What do you so for some people there the valve up here at the top that goes to the esophagus, that valve sometimes does not close well. Is is the taking more enzymes going to help that valve to close, or is there something else we should be adding to that? You've been listening to us talk with Dr. Milton Bastidis of Transformation Enzyme Corp, T E C enzymes.com. I've been using their supplements for about 20 years now. And we talk a lot, if you go watch our video, the four natural laws of healing, over at LivingWatersCleanse.com. We talk about at the end of the day, we have to get the cells well to heal. We have to detox first, open the pathways by doing colon hydrotherapy. It's critical. But then once you apply the prolytic enzymes and the probiotics, now you have a great chance at healing your gut. But if you've got to do both together, it's it's it's a synergistic benefit to doing probiotics, prebiotics, and prolytic enzymes along with colon hydrotherapy. It's a must. One, two, to clean the blood to get your cells well. Check it out. Tecenzymes.com. Use the code LIVINGWATERS for 10% off. Hey, if you want to work in a fun learning environment, you love to care for people, you have a great personality, quick on your feet. We're looking for colon hydrotherapists. It's part-time. We have some openings in the week, in the mornings from about 8, 8:30 till about 1, and from about 12 30 till 5. And we also have a Saturday opening. So give us a call 208-378-9911, 208-378-9911. If you'd like to explore about being a colon hydrotherapist in Living Waters. I love watching miracles happen. I especially love watching them happen in you. You have the ability to heal anything. We've proven it over and over and over again. We love to show you how you can heal your own body naturally. Here's what a few of our clients have shared with us.

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SPEAKER_02 22:42

Most definitely. I mean, you know, first of all, if it's a structural, it's if it's already a structural condition where you've lost integrity of that esophageal uh sphincter, then it's something the patient needs to go see a gastroenterologist for to see if there's any way, if the condition needs to be corrected. But if it's a chronic condition uh where the gastroesophageal uh sphincter is still working, all you need to do is eat a better diet, hydrate, hydrate, hydrate, and take your enzyme. That will turn around, you know, these you know, chronic conditions that have to do with, you know, too much pressure being applied on that sphincter, causing it to open, and then the patient having that heartburn, which is just a sign, a signal that your body's telling you, hey, something is not right. I'm not making you know enough of function in order to digest completely. And then it starts giving you symptoms such as the gastritis or the gastroesophageal reflux disease. And that's when you know patients have to uh go for our antacids and that and those sort of things. But you could definitely support that with healthy, natural, organic food, you know, hydrating and taking your enzymes. Yeah, they see that within weeks they're able to feel better, their GERD starts going down, their stomach acid starts working properly, and their digestive function starts improving. So I use for those for any type of gastrointestinal dysfunction, enzymes is where I go.

SPEAKER_01 24:11

Yeah. You wouldn't want to hydrate a lot with the meal, right? Because that's going to dilute the acids in the in the stomach?

SPEAKER_02 24:17

Not necessarily. I mean, enzymes are activated by water. If you have no water, then it's going to be hard for the enzymes to be activated. So, I mean, you know, you don't want to drink a gallon uh with your meal, you know, but if you take a four-ounce uh glass of water and you and you know you take your enzymes with it uh before the meal, and then you eat the meal, the enzymes are gonna be activated and they're gonna start working on that meal immediately.

SPEAKER_01 24:41

Could you still, if you forget, like I forget sometimes, would you still take the digestive enzyme mid-meal or even after the meal? Is that gonna be helpful?

SPEAKER_02 24:49

You know, I usually recommend it for you to take it before your first uh bite.

SPEAKER_01 24:54

Sure.

SPEAKER_02 24:54

But if you forget and you remember mid-meal, take it mid-meal. And if you forget and you remember after you finished eating, take it after you finish eating. Just take it. It's gonna get there, it's gonna look for a substrate, and it's gonna work on that substrate. And the substrate is if it's if you if you you know, if you take a broad spectrum digestive enzyme capsule, it's going to contain proteases, carbohydrases, and lipases. So if the enzymes get in there and they see a substrate that they love it.

SPEAKER_01 25:26

When you say substrate, let's let's let's define that. What's a substrate mean?

SPEAKER_02 25:29

So the substrate is uh in this example, it's you have a protease, which is a an enzyme that breaks down protein. So the protein would be the substrate. If you have an enzyme that is a lipase, which breaks down lipids and you eat fat, then the lipase will work on that fat. If you're if you have a carbohydrate, which breaks down carbohydrates, then that enzyme, the substrate, is going to be the carbohydrates. And examples of carbohydrates are like, you know, amylase, things that break down uh carbohydrates. So a substrate is actually what the enzyme digests.

SPEAKER_01 26:07

If we're not digesting our food properly, is this gonna cut downstream uh out of the stomach, uh, small intestine, is this gonna create a leaky gut issue because we don't have our food fully broken down?

SPEAKER_02 26:20

Yes. So as I mentioned earlier, one of the biggest triggers of your immune system is undigested proteins making their way into the uh circulation. And that usually begins with you have a poor lifestyle in terms of diet. Uh, you may, you know, drink, you may smoke, uh, you may uh stay up late according to your lifestyle, and if you're dealing with certain conditions, that creates a porous gastrointestinal lining. So for your viewers, the gastrointestinal lining should be semi-permeable. They should have tight junctions. A lot of times when there's you know, disease or a bad lifestyle, poor you know, life lifestyle uh choices, that gastrointestinal lining becomes porous, inflamed. And that's what we call leaky gut. Leaky gut, why? Well, because now your gastrointestinal lining is no longer semi-permeable. Now it's permeable. And when it's permeable, it allows in undigested proteins, macromolecules, to enter the circulation. And in the circulation around your gut lies about 80% of your immune system. And when your immune system sees an undigested molecule, it thinks it's an intruder. So it starts attacking that intruder and creating antibodies against that intruder. Well, that intruder is food, and now your food becomes your worst enemy when it should be your best friend nourishing you. So, yes, most definitely, with a leaky gut scenario, undigested proteins making make it in and elicit an immune response.

SPEAKER_01 27:56

Yeah, and we see a lot of that today, and now they get diagnosed with uh autoimmune, lupus, whatever it is, at the at the end of the day, you just gotta fix your gut. And at Living Waters, for you know, for 20 years we've been doing involved in this uh area, the gut is so amazing how quickly it can heal. I'm just impressed. Every five days you get brand new cells.

SPEAKER_02 28:17

Yes, most likely.

SPEAKER_01 28:19

We've got to clean out the colon and we gotta work up from there and and and and get the hydration. You got what, about 25 feet of small intestine and five to seven feet of a large intestine. So, and those things have got to be functioning properly. And if you're not, then you're not getting good absorption of nutrients. You're basically your nutrient deficient, correct?

SPEAKER_02 28:38

Correct, yes. And like you said, uh, you know, the enterocytes, which are your uh gastrointestinal lining, the cells that line your gastrointestinal tract, they're called enterocytes. Those enterocytes have about a three to five day turnaround. So if fasting, that's why fasting is so is so great. It's it's so there's so much healing in fasting. If you do a three to five day water-only fast, that allows for that gastrointestinal lining, those enterocytes to turn over, um, heal, and then slowly start introducing foods, you're gonna feel a lot better. And of course, what you're doing with your uh hydrocholon therapy, you're eliminating a lot of toxicity, which also by lessening the burden, it just allows your enterocytes to heal, turn over, and grow, you know, some new healthy enterocytes to uh alleviate that leaky gut scenario that we're we're talking about.

SPEAKER_01 29:27

I like to use the term uh we're basically we're carpet layers, we're laying brand down brand new carpet. Your flooring is getting replaced in your gut.

SPEAKER_02 29:34

Yes, that's a good analogy. That carpet starts getting uh you know holes in it, it starts, you know, uh trapping dirt, starts trapping pathogens. And when you get rid of that old carpet, lay down some new carpet, now you know, you've you've pretty much fixed that problem.

SPEAKER_01 29:49

What's happening today? We have so many people with bloating and and and so forth. What's happening there?

SPEAKER_02 29:55

Oh, well, you know, anytime you have uh things like bloating, you know, abdominal distension, constipation or diarrhea, anytime you have pain or discomfort uh after you eat certain meals, that is just a sign of gastrointestinal dysfunction. Okay, that means that when you eat, your food is not being properly digested, you're not absorbing nutrients efficiently, and your body gives you a signal. Usually the bloating or the belching or the you know, flatulence or the constipation or the diarrhea. Anytime you eat a food and it just doesn't go down well, that's a sign of gastrointestinal dysfunction. Plain and simple.

SPEAKER_01 30:37

What do we do? What's our next step? We've got you've guys got a great line of products. You've got probiotics, prebiotics, proteolytic enzymes, of course, digestive enzymes. Let's talk about how we would apply those in this situation.

SPEAKER_02 30:50

Most definitely. So, you know, we we always start with food. Food first. Food is the foundation. You can't beat a bad diet. You know, you can't take enough enzymes in order for you uh not to get sick from junk ultra-processed foods. So food has to be the first place you start. You know, and when I speak about food, uh I speak about, you know, what God sent us to eat. You know, anything that comes out of a tree or comes out of uh the ground or you know, a wild animal you have to hunt down, shoot and kill in order for you to eat. Uh, you know, things that have no, you know, uh chemicals, artificial flavors, artificial colors, things that don't have any preservatives. Uh pretty much what you see in the perimeter of your grocery store. You know, when you enter the grocery store, you shop the perimeter, that's where all the produce is, that's where all the meats are, that's where all you know all the unprocessed things are. But then you get into the aisles. You know, that's where all the preserved things are, the boxes, the cans, the bottles, you know, that's where what you want to stay away from. So we start with food first as a foundation, all natural, whole food, organic uh when possible. Now you're feeding your body nutrition. The next step is taking a digestive enzyme with that meal so you can properly, efficiently digest all the macromolecules into micronutrients. And remember, that's going to prevent those macromolecules from entering the circulation to elicit an immune response. Okay, so take a digestive with each meal so you can properly digest all your macromolecules into micronutrients. Now micronutrients start making into the circulation, and your immune system says, All right, we have amino acids, we have this essential fatty acids, you know, we have vitamins, minerals, let them go by because they're our friends. So a digestive with each meal. And then we recommend a proteolytic formula between meals. And the proteolytic formulas are formulas that only contain proteases. And remember, proteases break down proteins. But guess what? Cytokines, which are inflammatory proteins, they're also proteins. So if you take a protease on an empty stomach in between meals, they go into the circulation and your immune system grabs that protease and carries it to sites of inflammation. Okay, so they are anti-inflammatory, these proteases, when taken away from meals. They're also mucolytic, they're also fibrinolytic. Uh, they also detoxify and purify the blood. So it increases blood rheology, it increases circulation. And anytime you increase circulation, you're getting in more nutrients, more water, and more oxygen into sites that are either damaged or uh toxic, inflamed, or congested. So these proteases, uh when taken away from meals, they become systemic enzymes that help the immune system with inflammation, toxicity, congestion, infection. You know, they even have anti-tumor properties. And this is all according to the scientific literature. You know, this is this isn't me talking. You know, I'm not that smart. Uh, everything that I say is referenced in the scientific literature. Um, so that's step two. So step one, take a digestive with a meal. Step two, take a proteolytic away from meals for that systemic benefit. And then step three, we always recommend a probiotic formula to support your microbiome, which you know your microbiome has a lot to do with supporting your immune system as well.

SPEAKER_01 34:40

Let's that's a great analogy. I love that. As I in my video that um at livingwaterscleans.com. If you guys haven't heard it, Four Natural Laws of Healing, watch that video. I talk a little bit about the highway to the cells. To get well, you got to get nutrition to the cells. And the problem is, like you mentioned, your circulatory system, your blood is gets turbid and mucked up like a bad freeway with you know major wrecks and trees falling and rocks over the road. You know, the nutrition can't get there. So you begin slowing down because your body can't do the rep repair processes, you can't heal as quickly. So, well, I loved about the protease, that's I mean, it's my favorite product, quite frankly, is that you know what it does, and and you know, when I'm muscle testing those people as I mentioned earlier, and you know, telling just by their face, you know, their liver's out of whack. That's it's amazing how that just breaks down, that helps clean up that blood. Now, we on our 10-day retreat, Doc, we do a liver cleanse, which is very powerful. But there's two ways to clean up the blood. One is a slower way with the prolytics, and the other is our liver cleanse. But as an ongoing basis, those I take those proteases because we're in a toxic world.

SPEAKER_02 35:45

Oh, yeah. Yeah, you can't live in a bubble. So when you live, you know, you have to go out, you know, to work or you know, play or whatever, and and we're surrounded by toxicity, chemicals, just you know, what what what we wear, you know, what what what we clean ourselves with, you know, what we brush with, what the odor and in our carpets and our technology. I mean, we're swimming in toxicity. So these proteolytic enzymes, you know, they have a detoxifying effect as well. So, you know, you're able to lessen the burden on your liver.

SPEAKER_01 36:18

Yeah. Okay, so we've got SIBO. What would be some of your, by the way, guys, TEC enzymes.com. Use the code LivingWaters for a discount on the products there. What would be the products? If you got SIBO, you got this gas and bloating going on, what would be some of your go-to in your line?

SPEAKER_02 36:37

Okay, so uh, you know, let's break down SIBO, what it is, because you know, I like to educate uh my audience and and you know, so they can understand why this is being uh you know applied. So SIBO is some small intestinal bacterial overgrowth. You know, usually our intestinal flora should be, you know, in the large intestine. Um and when we have an overabundance of bacteria uh growing in our small intestine, that could create a lot of gas, a lot of bloating, a lot of discomfort. It may even come by way of you know dysbiosis, which you know, bad bugs more abundant than the than the good bugs. So uh SIBA will give you all those symptoms. So small intestinal bacterial overgrowth. The proteolytic enzymes, like I said, it they are an antimicrobial, meaning that you know they are able to digest the outer coat of parasites, viruses, uh, fungi, uh uh, pathogenic bacteria. So the mechanism of action with the proteolytic enzymes is every microorganism has an outer coat. And that outer coat is composed of proteins, lipids, and polysaccharides. Well, those are the perfect substrates, like I mentioned earlier, for these proteases. So the proteases start eating away at that outer coat of the pathogen. And when you're killing off that pathogen, okay, and you're supporting your microbiome with healthy bacteria, that is taking care of the root cause of that small intestinal bacterial overgrowth, that SIBO. So simple as what I mentioned earlier, take a digestive enzyme with a meal, take a protease formula in between meals, and a probiotic. And that's how we address uh to support things such as SIBO or any type of gut dysfunction, uh, if you if you will, if you know, call it gastritis, call it GERD, call it SIBO, uh, call it pathogenic infection in your gut. Call it what you will, that is what we recommend. The digestive enzyme of the meal, a proteolytic formula in between meals, and the probiotic. And that pretty much, along with again, you know, food first, along with a healthy diet, will uh support uh that SIBO or you know any any condition that the patient is dealing with in their gastrointestinal tract.

SPEAKER_01 39:01

And if you're constipated, i.e., if you're eating and not pooping, you're constipated, you got to get the junk out of the trunk, folks. You can't change all this with in a if you're if your sewer's backed up into your house, i.e., your body, you're not gonna be able to clean things up without uh doing colon hydrotherapy, getting that, you know, doing the little shower on the inside, removing all that debris. So now the products you're gonna take will be so much more effective, so much more utilized when you do that. So be sure you get some colon hydrotherapy wherever you're at. And on our website, livingwaterscleans.com, of course, you see a video on how that's done. If you haven't never seen how it's done, it's really easy. You gotta go see how it's done. Okay, so uh let's talk about uh another big thing that happens with the well, let's talk about probiotics, probiotics, prebiotics. Some products are just probiotics, some products are got probiotics and prebiotics. How in your line, let's talk about that, what you have, and then let's talk about do you take both at the same time? Is it a mixed formula? Let's talk about prebiotics, probiotics, kind of break that down.

SPEAKER_02 40:03

So, sure. So, for your audience, you know, a probiotic is healthy bacteria that form uh form our intestinal flora. And a prebiotic is pretty much the meal that these probiotics feed on. And they're usually like, you know, chicory root or inulin. They are uh uh fibers that are undigestible, but the bacteria feed on them, break them down, and use them as a source of fuel. So that's what a prebiotic is. It usually feeds the probiotic. Uh, formulas usually have them both. Uh we have uh uh formulas that have prebiotics in there. Um and um, you know, you just take them either in the morning uh or at night. We recommend one of the two when your digestive tract is at its uh rest. And just like the enzymes, get them in there. They're beneficial, they support the whole microbiome. Our microbiome is composed of billions and billions of uh strains that are beneficial to us, that support our immune system, that take our food, and from our food, they create uh substances and help us create things such as you know, neurotransmitters and our B complex and other nutrients. So taking a probiotic uh is always a good idea to do. And the prebiotic is like I said, it's just the the food that they love to uh feed off of.

SPEAKER_01 41:30

I see so many people that come to me, their guts are wrecked, they've been on many, many rounds of antibiotics. I had a doctor came through years ago. For 10 years, she was on antibiotics. Wow. She could only eat one food, cucumbers. Wow. That's the worst case I've ever seen. She's doing she went through our 10-day healing retreat, she's doing great now. You've been listening to us talk with Dr. Milton Bastides of Transformation Enzyme Corp. T E C enzymes.com. I've been using their supplements for about 20 years now. And you know, we talk a lot. If you go watch our video, the four natural laws of healing, over at LivingWatersCleanse.com. We talk about at the end of the day, we have to get the cells well to heal. We have to detox first, open the pathways by doing colon hydrotherapy. It's critical. But then once you apply the prolytic enzymes and the probiotics, now you have a great chance at healing your gut. But if you've got to do both together, it's it's it's a synergistic benefit to doing probiotics, prebiotics, and prolytic enzymes along with colon hydrotherapy. It's a must. One, two, to clean the blood to get your cells well. Check it out. Tecenzymes.com. Use the code LIVINGWATERS for 10% off. Hey, if you want to work in a fun learning environment, you love to care for people, you have a great personality, quick on your feet. We're looking for colon hydrotherapists. It's part-time. We have some openings in the week, in the mornings from about 8 8 30 till about 1, and from about 12 30 till 5. And we also have a Saturday opening. So give us a call, 208-378-9911, 208-378-9911. If you'd like to explore about being a colon hydrotherapist of Living Waters. I love watching miracles happen. I especially love watching them happen in you. You have the ability to heal anything. We've proven it over and over and over again. We love to show you how you can heal your own body naturally. Here's what a few of our clients have shared with us.

SPEAKER_04 43:21

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SPEAKER_05 44:01

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SPEAKER_01 44:12

To learn more about the 10-day healing retreat, go to LivingWatersCleanse.com, click on the link for natural laws of healing and watch the video and check out this hundreds of clients who heal from their symptoms under the Success Stories tab. Or call the office at 208-378-9911. That's 208-378-9911. The preceding examples may not be typical of your experience, may not be right for you. Talk to a healthcare professional and see if cleansing is right for you. For 10 years, she was on antibiotics. Wow. She could only eat one food: cucumbers. Wow. That's the worst case I've ever seen. She's doing she went through our 10-day healing retreat. She's doing great now. In fact, after the retreat, she says, hey David, I ate steak today. It tasted so good.

SPEAKER_02 44:55

She was in heaven.

SPEAKER_01 44:56

Yeah. So, okay, you're you're you get diagnosed, you've got something's happened to you. You cut yourself, you're kind of worried about what's going to happen. You take an antibiotic. What should I how should I use your product? How should I use those probiotics, prebiotics? Which one should I use?

SPEAKER_02 45:11

Most definitely. So uh we have four uh different formulas in our in our line. Uh one is called plantadophilus, it's got one strain, it's the uh lactobacillus plantarum. We usually like to start with that one because it's it's one strain, and the plantarum strain is very synergistic with the whole microbiome. It actually feeds everybody in the ecosystem. And you know, when, for example, the patient that you're talking about, but when they're on prolonged probe um antibiotic use, you want to start low and slow. Okay, you don't want to bombard them with a bunch of strains and billions of CFUs. You you you know, you want to start them low and slow. So our plantadophilus is what what that product is called. It's very gentle. It's got one strain, very synergistic to the whole ecosystem. And then our second product is called probiotic. It's got six strains, and that one has uh 15 billion CFUs per capsule, colony forming units per capsule. Then our we our third one is our more potent uh probiotic. It's called probiotic 42.5. That one has 10 strains, and it's got 42.5 billion colony forming units per capsule. And then we have a a uh a fourth one called transbiotic. And that transbiotic, I would recommend, along with, you know, when you start with plantadophilus, I would recommend that transbiotic as well, because that transbiotic has some spore-forming strains. And spore-forming strains, they they are able to resist harsh environments. Uh that's why they don't need to be refrigerated. But they're also able to resist harsh environments in terms of people that are on prolonged antibiotic use, you know, because those antibiotics that they're taking is wiping out their probiotics, their intestinal flora. So when you do this transbiotic and their spore forming, they are able to lay dormant and survive that antibiotic use. And when there's no more antibiotics in the system, they wake up, they thrive, they set up shop, and then they start working on uh, you know, helping out the rest of the microbiome that's still lying around.

SPEAKER_01 47:22

So wait until after you've finished your round of antibiotics before you start?

SPEAKER_02 47:25

You can do the transbiotic, you can do while you're taking the antibiotic because they're able to survive that harsh environment, and they they can resist uh being killed uh by the antibiotic.

SPEAKER_01 47:38

Can do all probiotics out there in the market can they survive the stomach acid?

SPEAKER_02 47:43

Yeah, yeah, most definitely. I mean, these are beneficial bacteria that are able to survive. As a matter of fact, our capsules are vegetable capsules, so we don't have, for example, uh there's some, I'm gonna give you an example. There's some enzymes that are animal enzymes. They're not able to survive the stomach acid. They get denatured, so they have to be enterically coated. Okay. So compressed tablet type Yes, yeah, in order for them to be able to survive that gastric environment and make it to the small intestine. Well, our enzymes and probiotics are in a vegetable capsule. They are not enterically coated. So they're able to survive that gastric environment, make it all the way into the small intestine for our enzymes and our uh large intestine for our probiotics. So that yes, they're able to survive all the way through.

SPEAKER_01 48:31

Excellent. Okay, so there's four different formulas there. I think that was a good breakdown of that. So we're gonna take our digestive enzyme, we're gonna take our probiotics, our prebiotics, and what else should we be thinking of then?

SPEAKER_02 48:41

You know, think about overall gut health. That that's important, you know, and remember it's as easy as one, two, three. Start with organic whole foods, natural foods, and then one, take a digestive enzyme with a meal, two, take a proteolytic formula between meals for that systemic uh benefit. And then three, take a probiotic. Doing those things is going to turn around any gut, uh, is gonna support gut health and turn around anything that uh patients are dealing with. You know, and everything that comes through my door, uh, because I still see patients, uh, that's what I start with. A digestive enzyme of the meal, a proteolytic formula between meals, and a probiotic. And more times than not, patients turn around and their gut health improves. And since all systems of the body rely on a healthy gut, all systems of the body start improving as well. Whether you're talking about, you know, patients that are dealing with, you know, thyroid issues, or patients dealing with adrenal issues, or patients dealing with hormonal issues, or patients dealing with whatever. If you correct that gut, you're gonna affect positively anything else that the patient is dealing with.

SPEAKER_01 49:58

What do you recommend for people with yeast candida?

SPEAKER_02 50:03

So, like I said, the proteolytic enzymes, when taken away from meals, they're antimicrobial. So they're antifungal as well. So, you know, yeast, candida, you know, these microorganisms, they have an outer coat. And that outer coat is composed of proteins, lipids, and polysaccharides. Like I said, it's a perfect substrate for the proteases. So by digesting the outer coat of any microorganism, including, you know, uh fungus or candida, you're pretty much wiping them out. You know, and not only that, but the proteases also they potentiate macrophage activity by 700%. They also uh increase natural killer cells. So the enzymes are not only eating away at that outer coat of the microorganism, but they're also improving macrophage activity and natural killer cell activity to for your immune system to be more robust and be able to uh tackle these pathogens.

SPEAKER_01 51:02

Okay, the word picture I want to put out there, you're taking this product, folks, and you're literally turning on the little Pac-Men uh to go to work. In other words, the macrophages and the killer cells, they're there and they gotta be woken up, they're kind of asleep, they're kind of sitting there waiting for orders, they're hanging out, and now they got to be woken up and go to work. And we want those guys just going in there and just literally chomping up the bad guys, seeking out the bad cells. And that's where it comes into cancer, right? We need to basically knock this stuff down with something to eat up, and as you mentioned, the parasites and so forth, but also uh when it comes to cancer, is that correct?

SPEAKER_02 51:39

Yeah, so you know, according to the scientific literature, uh proteolytic enzymes, and specifically bromelin, bromelin is an enzyme that's coming from pineapples.

unknown 51:48

Right.

SPEAKER_02 51:48

As a matter of fact, I have a uh a present whole presentation called, you know, why pineapples don't get cancer. Uh reason being is that bromelin, uh, according again, according to the scientific literature, uh, has shown antitumor, anti-cancerous properties. And uh the the way it does that is that since it is a fibrinolytic, it breaks down fibrous tissue that tumors are usually uh good at uh creating in order for them to evade the immune system. Tumors are have also uh figured out a way to turn on certain signals that don't let them survive and turn on signals that uh allow them to survive and turn off signals that usually harm them. So, bromelin, according to the scientific literature, uh, has been shown to have anti-tumor properties by way of turning on apoptotic signals, which are signals that tells the cell to die. Uh bromelin also turns off anti-apoptotic signals, which don't allow the tumor cells to die. Bromelin has also been shown to increase certain uh transcription factors in genes, such as P53, which is called the guardian of the cell. It's a it's a tumor-suppressing gene. Bromelin is able to stimulate P53. So, you know, according to the scientific literature, these proteases do have antitumor, anticancerous properties.

SPEAKER_01 53:19

We saw coming out from uh, I can't think of his name right now, but uh because of the COVID shot, they were recommending natokinase, bromeline, and cacuramin, if I've remember correctly.

SPEAKER_02 53:31

Uh is that uh Dr. McCullus uh Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_01 53:34

So natokinase, protease, kind of the same thing in the same wheelhouse?

SPEAKER_02 53:40

Yeah, so proteases, there's different proteases. You know, like when you talk about cars, there's different cars, right? There's like Toyota, there's Honda, there's Nissan, same thing. There's proteases, and there's different proteases. You know, there's natokinase, there's bromelin, there's papaine, there's lumbrokinase, there's serapeptidase. There's just those are different types of proteases.

SPEAKER_01 54:01

Okay. So I've taken if I've taken the COVID shot, what what are you what are you gonna suggest to me? I know we're not diagnosing, treating, or making any medical claims here. We're just saying here, hypothetically, this is my what we may do.

SPEAKER_02 54:15

Right. So, you know, it you know, and I always revert, I I always go back to the scientific literature. You know, in the scientific literature, bromelin, which is our most active uh enzyme in our protease formula, bromelin, according to the scientific literature, has been shown to inhibit the uh receptor binding domain of the spike protein.

SPEAKER_01 54:38

Wow.

SPEAKER_02 54:40

So, what does that mean? The spike protein is part of the uh virus that actually attaches to the receptor. Well, bromelin uh inhibits that receptor binding domain so that the spike protein can no longer attach. So that's one of the ways bromelin can help. Another way is remember, bromelin, according to the scientific literature, has been shown to uh digest the outer coat of viruses. The outer coat of viruses are composed of proteins, lipids, polysaccharides. Those are perfect substrates for that enzyme. So you're not only destroying the outer coat, but you're also inhibiting the receptor binding protein of the spike protein. Now remember, bromelin also potentiates macrophage activity by 700% and increases natural killer cells. So to answer your question, anyone dealing with any type of pathogenic load, whether it's fungal overgrowth or viral uh infection uh or parasite or whatever, proteolytic enzymes and in our um products uh are protease, which contains uh a good amount of bromelane in it, uh, will be able to support uh a patient dealing with these type of things.

SPEAKER_01 56:07

Are you finding your practitioners? Are they are they taking a standard thousand milligrams, two thousand milligrams, or are they muscle testing for each individual client and need to determine that way? What are you seeing there?

SPEAKER_02 56:20

Well, what I'm seeing is that you know, folks like your yourself that that does the applied kinesiology, you know, they're muscle testing in order to uh determine what the patient needs at that at that point in time. Others are are just um you know uh giving the proteolytic proteasis in between meals, and they're titrating up every two or three days in order to get the most amount of proteolytic activity uh in the system. So what you know, and I also recommend practitioners to start low and go up slow. So day one, you start with one cap three times a day uh in between meals, so with no food in your uh GI tract. If the patient is able to tolerate that well, well, uh you you do that for two or three days, and on the third day, increase one cap at each dose. So now the patient will be at two caps three times a day. Do that for a couple of days. If they tolerate that dosage well, then they add another cap. And you slowly titrate that up every three days, adding one cap to each dose until the patient starts seeing uh a difference in terms of their, you know, their bloating improves, their uh constipation improves, their um brain fog, energy, uh sleep, uh, you know, symptoms just start improving. Um and like I said, since we're all different, we all have a different number of enzymes that we need, that's a good way to go about it. And that's what I see a lot of practitioners doing.

SPEAKER_01 57:55

Do you see people with uh, you know, we get a lot of people with arthritis, you know, they've got their labels, lupus, whatever. Do you see them using the protoque enzymes and so forth over time that sort of breakdown and help clear that out?

SPEAKER_02 58:07

Most definitely. As a matter of fact, uh, according to the scientific literature, papaine, uh, you know, an enzyme from papaya, is able to break down the antigen-antibody complex. So, you know, when your body starts creating antibodies, it's it creates antibodies specific to an antigen. An antigen is that foreign substance that triggers an immune response. That's called an antigen. So we have an antigen, whether it's you know a virus or you know, any type of pathogen or an undigested food, like I said earlier, you know, undigested proteins can also become antigens. You know, they elicit immune reactions. So when you have an antigen and the body identifies it as an intruder, it creates an antibody. And the antibody goes and attaches to that antigen. So now you have an antigen-antibody complex. Many times those antigen-antibody complexes get lodged into tissues or they get you know uh sequestered in joints. That's where patients with you know autoimmune disease, uh, they start, you know, having stiff, achy joints, flexibility uh is hindered, uh, pain from the inflammation increases. Well, papaine has been shown to uh break up that antigen antibody complex so that your body can now uh eliminate them more efficiently. So for patients I see with autoimmune diseases, you know, I load them up on proteolytic enzymes in between meals, and they immediately start seeing uh an improvement in their joint mobility, in their inflammation and pain.

SPEAKER_01 59:41

That's awesome. That's awesome that you can have that support. That's why we've enjoyed it in our every day in our office when they're going through the 10-day healing retreat. We're testing pro protease as a part of that, and we're testing them for that uh every day, and as they're doing their colon hydrotherapy and all the other things we're doing uh during this 10-day retreat. And so that's you know, we love the product. It's it's a good product, folks, and you can get it T E C enzymes, use the code LivingWaters to get a discount and uh start using. If you're in Boise, you want to come in, I'll be happy to muscle test you, of course, and uh get you started the right way. You know, it's interesting to me, just overall, we have all these issues in the country, and here we have some super, I call them super unknown nutrients that people most people haven't heard of. They're so powerful. Why is that? What's happened there?

SPEAKER_02 1:00:30

Well, most definitely, I mean, enzymes, if you know, and and I've said this many times, if I were if I if I were stranded in an island and all I could take is one supplement, I would definitely do enzymes.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:43

Uh, because with enzymes, you can break down everything that you're eating and extract all the nutrients in that food. Uh so you know you don't I wouldn't take a vitamin or a mineral, I would take an enzyme in order for me to break to get the vitamin in the mineral from the food I'm eating.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:00

Yeah. UTIs. Uh as one gets older, um, I've got a relative in in uh memory care. Uh a lot of UTIs. And uh so what do you suggest for that, Doc?

SPEAKER_02 1:01:15

Well, you know, a UTI is usually, you know, urinary tract infection, uh, usually coming by way of a pathogen, you know, usually a you know bacterial infection or a fungal infection or you know, some type of infection um occurring in the um urinary tract. And usually, you know, the terrain, a a toxic terrain, sets up the stage for pathogens to thrive. Uh when you're taking the proteolytic enzymes, remember they increase blood rheology, they detoxify the blood, they purify the blood. So you're cleaning up the terrain. And remember the proteolytic enzyme also attacks directly the outer coat of the pathogen, and it also increases macrophage activity by 700% and increases natural killer cells. So by taking the proteolytic enzymes, you're tackling the urinary tract infection in many, many, many ways. You're cleaning up the blood, you're cleaning up the terrain, you're increasing the immune power, and you're actually attacking the pathogen directly. So, again, proteolytic enzymes for your UTIs.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:24

Would you follow that afterwards with a probiotic or at the same time?

SPEAKER_02 1:02:28

Oh, at the same time, most definitely. You know, like I said, for any type of condition that walks through my door, you know, I always recommend a digestive enzyme with a meal, a proteolytic uh enzyme between meals, and the probiotic to support the microbiome.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:43

And then and for a UTI and an older person, would you then like just you'd stair step up to the as we walk through the 40 plant plantodophilus and then to the uh yeah, the one with four strains, and then you have the 42.5.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:58

Yes, so so the plantophilus is one strain, the probiotic is what's what it's called, it's six strains, and then the probiotic 42.5 is 10 strains. So you can gradually uh you know move and move them up.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:11

Uh two weeks, a month. How would you how would you stay step that?

SPEAKER_02 1:03:15

So I would stair step, you know, take one bottle of the plant, finish it up, then go to the probiotic, finish it up, then go to the 42.5, and just repopulate that way.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:25

Three-month process, then basically.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:28

Excellent. Awesome. Um well, we've talked about a lot of things today. We've talked about I mean, we've covered a gamut here. Anything else you want to cover today?

SPEAKER_02 1:03:37

Uh no, just you know, what I what I tell my patients and you know what I what I love uh expressing is, you know, start with food first. You know, that that is the foundation, you know, especially, you know, God-given, uh, God-sent food that is whole, natural, uh, as organic as possible. If you if you're able to uh have a relationship with your local farmer that you trust, that you know, good regenerative, uh sustainable farming methods uh is always uh the best. Stay away from chemicals, preservatives, uh colors, artificial sweeteners, flavors, and you know, take your enzymes. We all need enzymes. If you eat, if you breathe, if you drink, you need enzymes. Okay, so take your enzymes.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:27

Uh one thing I didn't want to I I just made my notes here. We've got big in the news this day, it's microplastics. We're going to the we've been going to the coffee store for the last 20 years, and those paper cups are not paper, they're plastic, and then the microplastics are breaking off. Right. What should we be taking for that? How are we gonna get those plastics out of our body?

SPEAKER_02 1:04:45

Yeah, you know, uh it's interesting you mentioned that uh the aspergillus species, it's a fungus that produces uh uh enzymes. Uh that's where uh a lot of our enzymes come from. They're mycelial enzymes from the aspergillus species. And the aspergillus species has been shown to uh produce enzymes that are able to break down uh plastics. They're able to also break down glyphosate, they're also able to break down a lot of these xenobiotics that make it into our body, uh, things like BPA, like uh glyphosate, uh you know, and a lot of endocrine disrupting compounds. As a matter of fact, last year I performed a detox study uh where we took uh participants and half of them we gave them our proteolytic formula, the other uh half we gave them uh uh a placebo. And we tested over a hundred xenobiotics, including endocrine disrupting chemicals. And we noticed that uh at the end of the study, we noticed a pattern that our protease group was able to clear out more efficiently those xenobiotics and endocrine disrupting chemicals. versus the placebo group. And that I believe was due to, in part, by the mycelial enzymes that are in our formulas that are able to break down and metabolize those harmful chemicals that we're surrounded with and we're swimming in on a daily basis.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:18

Well let's get into our well these proteolytic enzymes will they get into our brain?

SPEAKER_02 1:06:22

So the the proteolytic enzymes they're they're they're big molecules they don't actually cross the blood brain barrier but what they do is when you take a proteolytic enzyme you immediately increase a carrier protein called alpha 2 macroglobulin okay and that's a carrier protein that actually takes the protease and carries it throughout the circulation. That alpha 2 macroglobulin is stimulated when you take the proteases and that alpha 2 macroglobulin also has high affinity to a receptor on our brain cells called LRP1. And that LRP1 when it's stimulated it has a it has a beneficial effect in our brain. So while the enzyme doesn't cross the blood brain barrier it does by way of the alpha 2 macroglobulin stimulate that LRP1 receptor on our brain cells and that LRP1 receptor actually starts cleaning out debris okay so things like alpha senuclein and amyloid beta plaquing that is prevalent in neurodegenerative disorders such as Parkinson's and dementia those are you know amyloid beta plaques that form in the brain when that LRP1 receptor is stimulated it goes in and it cleans up all those plaques that develop uh in the brain and this is again according to the scientific literature it's been shown to do that and taking the proteolytic enzyme stimulates that mechanism to occur.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:03

That is fascinating. That's pretty cool stuff yeah that is very fascinating wow I mean that's very powerful there's so much in this episode folks you're gonna have to listen to this like two or three times because and and in the show notes I think there's a transcription but you know do like share and subscribe this this is a mind blowing episode here about a you know nutrients so simple for everything that's going on in our world breaking down glyphosate taking care of you know helping with what's been happening with the you know we got lied to you know six years ago and the stuff that you guys some of you guys took has caused a lot of problems heart problems so forth all these issues and this is a this is a mechanism by which you can get some assistance and help uh help clean up your body along with of course doing what we recommend of course doing a colon hydrotherapy so the pathways are open so it has a place to dump literally dump dump awesome you mentioned also I think you yeah you mentioned this when our in our we talked previously Lewy body Parkinson's neuro yeah so this basically what you're you were talking about when we talked back then yeah yeah most definitely it's it's through that mechanism that is is turned on by supplementing uh with proteases you you turn on that alpha 2 macroglobulin and has a high affinity to that LRP1 receptor in our brain and that receptor actually starts the process of you know breaking down those amyloid plaques that uh you know Parkinson's and and and you know uh dementia and and Alzheimer's patients uh have an overabundance in guys TEC Tom Edwardcat enzymes.com use the uh LivingWaters for the discount code uh and get on those today and start trying these out as we've talked about here we've been using it for 20 years folks maybe longer long time personally we were using it personally before we brought it brought it into the office so uh I appreciate you being here today this is awesome thank you thank you for having me i i and i it was i enjoyed myself it's a pleasure i i always love uh putting this information out there because you know not enough people know about that definitely and and you know as as high as our sick care costs are that's why I'm here I I call it preaching I'm preaching proselyzing getting cleaned up and cleansed because we got a five trillion sick care bill and you know just some of these things like what you guys are doing at Transformation Enzymes is we could we could significantly cut that 5 trillion sick care bill uh uh by at least half doing just some of these natural things easy yeah easy peasy all right folks so you've got it here we've had uh it's been a great conversation today over on the podcast uh you know grab all this information there of course and share it with your friends because the people out there that need to hear this maybe they got some gas and they're bloating or their joints are aching they got some brain fog going on they need to start someplace and this is a good place to start. Until next week have a blessed week my friends