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What is zeolite? What is that? And what was the thought process there to use that?

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So zeolite essentially is volcanic ash. It comes from volcanoes. And it is what I would call a true binder. And the the reason I call it a true binder is because you don't metabolize it, you don't break it down, you don't absorb it, it doesn't interact with you. It's not like a fiber. Like you your body's designed to digest fiber and break it down. And so while you can have a binding capacity within fiber, you're still metabolizing it. So it's not going to carry that toxin completely out of you. It might carry some of it, but a lot of it's just going to get broken down and reabsorbed and redistributed. So when you use zeolite, you're not getting the benefit of fiber because all of those things have a huge benefit to your microbiome. But what you're trading that benefit for is you're trading it as a true binder where it's going to bind to a toxin and not let it go. It's going to hold on to it through your entire, through your entire digestive system and exit you without getting redistributed.

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SPEAKER_04 3:39

Yeah, you know, that's actually not an inaccurate because there were there was probably a year or so there where it just felt like I was dying. So it was pretty severe. Uh, you know, like I tell people, it it was the combination of getting sick with COVID, being in bed for two weeks, not being able to eat or drink anything, and then also being exposed to black mold at my house, in my office, and then, you know, having Lyme at the same time and an active parasite infection. It was just, it was a lot for my body to handle, and it was very difficult to get rid of.

SPEAKER_02 4:08

Yeah, you know, I went through something similar in 2022, and I thought I was gonna, I mean, I my wife came home every day and begged me to not die, and it was the hantavirus for me. Yeah, and uh yeah, I got I lost 30 pounds in 15 days. Hell of a weight loss program. But don't you find when you're in those situations, you know what you know, but then I mean you just can't think, right? I remember my daughter telling me something that, oh yeah, why didn't I think of that? So tell me about the what was your process when you got so sick? You know, you're normally the he lore and now you are the uh the healing. What was that like?

SPEAKER_04 4:36

It was difficult, right? I mean, I have I I network with a lot of other docs, so I I I had a lot of friends who I could rely on and talk to. But also in that same sense, like we all had very similar protocols and and all similar advice and stuff. And it was tough. It was tough doing the things that I've seen help other people that did not help me. And I think with a lot of people, when they have these types of infections, there's this natural ebb and flow to some days are good, some days are bad. And I was actually just talking to a patient about this today. That like for the first two years, I was trying everything and anything. Any kind of protocol, any kind of supplement protocol you thought might help me, I would try it. Any kind of therapy from light therapy to PMF to you know, hyperbaric oxygen to colonics and coffee enemas. Like I was desperate. I was like, just whatever, whatever you got, just let's throw at me and see what happens. And that's what I did for two years. And after two years, I I realized that I didn't know what I was doing. And so I started to slow down and do one at a time thing because I needed to figure it out. But it took a really long time. And during that time, I mean, I was working one day a week. My wife, you know, started her own business because I stayed at home most of the time. I have right now they're eight and fourteen. I mean, I have two daughters that we homeschool. And so, like, our life for like four years was just turned upside down financially, like emotionally, physically. It was very hard. It was a very hard time. And, you know, when you're a doctor and you're a healer and you enjoy it and you enjoy it, and you also like that kind of the detective part of it, and I want to figure this out. But it's not fun when it's you. When it's you, it's not fun. Because I kept thinking I had the answer and trying it and it not worked. And these were good protocols. These were protocols that I had personally done for years and was seeing benefits from it. But when I hit this, this level of sickness, it required a different way of thinking. You know, it required me to just be patient, to kind of lean into my relationship with God and be very open to anything, within reason, obviously, but be open to anything that made sense. And I had some friends, I had friends who were like, you need to try this. And I was like, oh, I don't want to try anything more. But then once I, I don't know, once I decided it was okay to try things, and I would try specifically detoxing in a different way. That's when I started to get better. And when I started to kind of what I would say fall onto my fall back into my chiropractic roots of chiropractic philosophy and how to treat sickness and disease, that's when my life started to get better, and that's when um my health started to get better, and I started to see real tangible results.

SPEAKER_02 7:05

Okay, so walk us through that. So, first of all, you did all three come on at once. I mean, you said you have black mold, lime, I mean, all at once?

SPEAKER_04 7:14

What happened? What'd you do? I think the lime is hard because I remember when I got it. I remember I remember picking it off in the shower. I mean, I'm in Maine, and it's like you get bit by ticks, so you're kind of paranoid every time you get bit by a tick. But this one was significant, and I remember in the shower finding it, like on the hidden on the back of my leg where I couldn't see it or feel it, and picking it off. I don't remember if that I think that was before I got sick. But then in 2021, that's when I got COVID slash was also working in black mold and living in black mold and was doing everything I could to remediate it. Um, my landlord wouldn't remediate it, so I stopped paying him rent. He still wouldn't remediate it. I had the state, I had the town come in, town inspectors come in, and they said you have black mold, and he still wouldn't remediate it. So essentially I had to close my practice, just close it. I'm like, I'm not working in mold anymore, I'm not bringing patients in the mold. I literally had to close my practice and I rented from a friend during their off hours. And I was like, Can I use your office when you're not using it? But at my house, we had a lot of water damage that we didn't know, and we had a lot of leaks that we didn't know. And so every time we found a leak, we would remediate the mold, but then it would just come back because we had more leaks. So that all happened at the same time. And then the parasite infection, there was no one incident of me being like, oh, like this is a parasite infection. And I actually had more to do with during this time, I was doing a lot of parasite cleanses that were not fun and they kicked my butt and they were very difficult to do. They were very challenging, I would say, emotionally, because like what I found not just with me, but with other people, when you do these types of parasite protocols where you're doing a lot of herbals and you got a lot going on, including parasites, they essentially made me neurotic. I mean, there were there were so many neurotransmitter imbalances that happened that it was just clouding the whole issue of infection. And there was just like these in fact, this infection, this one, this one, this one. So it was very confusing. It was very convoluted. I didn't know where to start. And I had a colleague of mine, we were talking about detox. And again, we've I've been trained to detox in a lot of different ways using liver support, kidney support, you know, working on the microbiome, doing lung support, whether it's supplements or therapies, using different types of binders to bind to different types of uh toxins and stuff. And so we were talking, and she was like, I'm getting really good results doing detox differently and much more simple. And essentially it was it's a high dose zeolite by uh it's a it's a high dose zeolite protocol. And um I don't know why I was hesitant. I was just very hesitant to do it. But once I did it, and once I uh did it for a little while, essentially what I found was that my worst days were no longer like down here. My worst days were a lot higher. It didn't cure me of anything, but what it did was it actually took the it essentially took the inflammation down very in a very short period of time and it allowed my body to just take a breath. So while it was still in crisis, it wasn't in the fiber alarm crisis mode, it was in the you know, four or three alarm crisis. And it was the first thing in three years that had actually done anything positive. Were you doing any colonics at that time? I had started to do some coffee enemas at home. And for as sick as I was and neurotic as I was, I wasn't getting the results I wanted for the physical and emotional toll it took on me to do them because coffee enemas and colonics aren't necessarily the easiest thing for people, like for patients to buy in in general a lot of times, but for me too, it was very hard. I I was very sick, and so I think I would when I when I was doing them, there was like a bunch of other things I was doing, and I had done them for like a week or two. I think I did them for two weeks. And a colleague of mine, you know, she trains people on how to do coffee enemas and stuff, and so I worked with her.

SPEAKER_02 10:59

Oh, so you did coffee enemas for a couple weeks, you said? Is that what you're saying?

SPEAKER_04 11:01

I did coffee enemas for a couple weeks. Okay, but it just and I like them and I love the coffee enemas. What was that?

SPEAKER_02 11:08

Yeah, did you do the clean clients before you did the coffee enemas?

SPEAKER_04 11:11

I can't remember if I did or didn't. Um sometimes I I know that when she trains people, it's hey, do you know, do a water, do a water enema first and then do the coffee enema. Again, I'm not the expert in it. I mean, I love using them, I love, you know, colonic hydroclonic therapy, I love, you know, coffee enemas and stuff. And for people who do them, I mean I've seen people just, it's like they have a headache, a migraine, they do a coffee enema or colonic, and boom, it's gone in like seconds. And so I know there's a time and place and there's a person that it's for. Uh, I just kind of felt like at the time that I'd I'd done it enough where if it was gonna be the thing that shifted me, it would have already done it after doing it for two weeks. Um because I've been doing things for years and I was getting sick and tired of just not getting results. And so I was moving very quickly at that time off of things that didn't move the diode.

SPEAKER_02 12:03

Well, our experience has been we did coffee enemas many moons ago, but we found that you gotta do you know several clients before you start popping stuff out of the liver with the with the coffee enemas.

SPEAKER_04 12:12

Sure. 100%.

SPEAKER_02 12:14

Yeah, we'll we won't even on our 10-day retreat, we won't even do our liver cleanse until maybe day seven through maybe ten even until things are the pathways are really opened up.

SPEAKER_04 12:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 12:24

Wow.

SPEAKER_04 12:24

Yeah. Um and it was that was really within like within 24 hours, like making a huge difference.

SPEAKER_02 12:32

Did you use anything else with it? Did you use any psyllium? Did you use any fiber, any ventinite, any I mean, just zeolite, huh?

SPEAKER_04 12:38

Yeah, just zeolite. So I mean, and it's not that I haven't done any of that.

SPEAKER_02 12:43

So explain to people what for the listeners out there, what what is zeolite? What is that? Why and what was the thought process there to use that?

SPEAKER_04 12:50

Yeah, 100%. So zeolite essentially is volcanic ash. It comes from volcanoes. And it is what I would call a true binder. And the the reason I call it a true binder is because you don't metabolize it, you don't break it down, you don't absorb it, it doesn't interact with you. It's not like a fiber. Like you your body's designed to digest fiber and break it down. And so while you can have a binding capacity within fiber, you're still metabolizing it. So it's not going to carry that toxin completely out of you. It might carry some of it, but a lot of it's just gonna get broken down and reabsorbed and redistributed in some way. So when you use zeolite, you're not getting the benefit of fiber, because all of those things have a huge benefit to your microbiome. But what you're what you're trading that benefit for is you're trading it as a true binder where it's going to bind to a toxin and not let it go. It's gonna hold on to it through your entire, through your entire digestive system and exit you without getting redistributed. And so zeolite, the re- there's a couple of reasons why I like this. One is because it's considered an intelligent binder. It has two ways of binding. The first way is its structure, which is a cage, and something can just fit in there, and once it fits in there, it's not going away, it's just gonna stay. The other way it's gonna bind is energetically with positive and negative charges, right? And that's kind of where it becomes intelligent, where the stronger the top the the stronger the charge of the toxin, the more affinity it has for it. So if it binds to aluminum and then comes into contact with mercury, it's going to choose, it's gonna dump aluminum and take that mercury and shovel it on. It's just going to choose, because of basic chemistry, it's just gonna choose that thing and pull it out of you the whole way. And it's not gonna let it go unless something more toxic comes along. So in general, that's how zeolite works. Because of that, because of the way it binds, it's actually pretty safe to take with food and other supplements because it's going to choose something more toxic, like the ammonia you make, histamines, sulfur. It's gonna choose plastics, pesticides, metals. All of those things are a higher priority than your food or supplements. So it you don't really have to worry about, you know, timing things where I can take, I have to take this binder two hours away from this, or I have to cycle on to this binder and then cycle off for three or four years. Like you don't have to do any of that. It's much more simple, it's just you just take it and it binds to the things that are toxic to you and it holds onto that. It'll bind to the mold. It'll bind to the mold. It'll bind to the mold. Oh, yeah. In fact, Zeolite has um a grass label, which is generally regarded as safe. Uh, and the reason it got that is because it's been used in agriculture and farms for over a hundred years. And essentially what they would do is when they would go into the barn and they would see moldy hay, they would it's a powder. They would just like kind of dump it on the hay, and then like the next day they would just brush off all the zeolite and the mold would be gone. Um so it was originally, yeah. So it was originally used for mold. How did you use any other like chlorella? Did you use any other before before doing this? Yes, that's I'd used all of those different binders, right? Like everybody markets it and talks about how this binder has an affinity for this type of toxin and this one has for this type of toxin. And the idea behind doing a high dose zeolite is actually very simple. And it's that, well, first of all, just being a chiropractor, I would say your body knows what to do, your body knows how to heal itself. There's just something stopping. And what we have to do is remove the thing that's stopping your body from doing it, and then it'll just do what it wants to do, and which is heal you. So in chiropractic, we talk about the three T's or the three things that will stop your body from healing you, which is trauma thought, toxin, which another way of saying it is a physical trauma, an emotional trauma, or a toxic over. So it's gonna be one of those three things that you have to get rid of in order for the body to just start functioning normally. And the reason why this resonates really well with me is because it's very elegant and simple in the sense of, well, this is just gonna grab toxins and pull them out of you, and it's gonna let your body start to heal and re-regulate itself without me having to micromanage, you know, 250 different pathways in your body, which is like I think a fraction of what there actually is, but that's what is typically measured in these tests. And so instead of micromanaging my own health, I was like, okay, I'm just gonna try to eliminate the toxin with this. And so the idea is that if you can get a high enough dose of binder in you and you bind up all these toxins, and you very quickly reduce the inflammation, what happens is the body feels safe, it feels better, and it's more willing to let go of those deeper toxins that it's been holding on to that are clogging the detox pathways. And so what the goal is is to get to a high enough dose to grab that release of toxins after you bind up all the stuff that's floating around. And when people do binders and they get a detox reaction, it's typically because they're binding up stuff, they use up all their binder, their body dumps another layer of toxins, but they don't have enough binder there to bind to it and to grab it. And so they'll react to that toxin coming out of that. And so with zeolite, because it's just this all-purpose binder, you can just take huge, huge doses of it. It's a powder, you know, kind of think of it like, you know, just like a protein shake where you just scoop it out, like you just do like five scoops or six scoops or whatever you need to do, and you're getting into that 30 gram range, which typically people are taking like 150 milligrams. So you're talking about an exponentially higher amount than what's in typical uh binders, and it just works. Like it works the way I wanted it to work, right? Like from a philosophical standpoint. Like if we can just reduce the binders and let the body heal, I wonder what will happen. And with the zeolite at the high dose, that's actually what you start to see. You start to see people just binding toxins up and their body just start re-re-regulating itself.

SPEAKER_02 18:24

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SPEAKER_04 20:44

Yeah. So I can I guess in simple terms, when people talk about detox pathways, they're really talking about the different ways that, you know, the liver um filters toxins out of you. You know, I mean, we're you still have obviously your kidneys and your lymph, and that's part of your all complete detox pathway. But, you know, in this sense, we're talking about, I think I told you I have kids, and it's like I always try to explain it in a way where my daughters can understand, right? Yeah. So I got into the habit of explaining it by different water slides at a water park.

SPEAKER_05 21:14

Yeah, there we go.

SPEAKER_04 21:15

And it's like your body has like six or seven different water slides. So essentially, when you get toxins, toxins toxins tend to be lipophilic, meaning they love to be in fat. And so you tend to store toxins in your body because it gets stored in fat. And then the first thing your body does is it says, hey, we want it to be, you know, we want it to be in water so you can pee it out, sweat it out, get it out of your intestines. So it adds oxygen to it, and that makes it like that makes it more water soluble. And so your first thing your body does is it adds water to uh adds oxygen to it. But when that happens, it's very reactive. Now it's in some ways more toxic than it originally was. And this is where you get these ROSs or the reactive oxygen species. And if you don't get it out fast at that point, you'll start to do real DNA damage. And that's where these other paths. Pathways come into pay or water slides. And that's where when people talk about methylation, glutathione, sulfonation, all these other things, this these are the detox pathways. And essentially what your body's doing is it's taking the methyl group or the glutathione or the sulfur group and it's attaching it to the toxin that's now water soluble and making it more stable so that it doesn't hurt. Uh, and then once that gets attached, it goes out your liver and it goes into your intestines and then you eliminate it or you poop it out. Right. And so what we're talking about is that phase three, quote unquote phase three, or that how do you get it out of you, whether it's with a colonic or whether it's with the binder, you're trying to get that phase three out of it. And what this high dose binder does is does something really cool. It's like, I used to measure these pathways and like say, oh, you need more sulfur, you need a higher sulfur diet, or you need these sulfur supplements because your sulfur pathways are clogged. And we want, we really want to push them from the behind, from behind, right? Like think of like a traffic jam and getting to the back car and just trying to push it forward. And that was always the idea. But this idea with the zeolite is that, well, what if we just get to the front of the car and start pulling things out and see what happens? And what I started to see is that if I just gave patients zeolite at a high dose, their pathways started to unclog on their own because the body just made the resources that it needed because it already knew what to do. And so that's kind of what the detox pathways are in your liver in like really simple terms, is that there's just these different slides or avenues that toxins can come out of. And what the zeolite does is it just allows the body to figure out the most effective way to do that without a logjam.

SPEAKER_02 23:30

When you take it, is it getting absorbed immediately like under the tongue? Is it how is it getting is it getting eventually into the blood to help pull things out of the tissues? What's the mechanism?

SPEAKER_04 23:40

So again, you don't metabolize it, so you don't really absorb it like a traditional supplement. It really does just sit there and grab things. But again, your digestive tract is pretty toxic. I mean, even in a in even in the healthiest way, like you're constantly making toxins, you're constantly making free radicals, you're constantly making ammonia, you're constantly making LPSs or lipopolysaccharides, which is the most toxic thing that we make. And your body has to flush it out. And so when we eat and we digest, it's such an energy suck. It's like our body spends so much time and energy with digestion because just like with our cars, right? You put gas in it and you get all this energy, but you have this exhaust. And so there's always this payoff in terms of energy, like, hey, we're getting energy, but we're also getting toxins out of it. And so there's this huge payoff. And so the largest concentration of toxins, I think, is gonna be in your gut. And so as you just bind those up, you don't actually have to go into these tissues. You don't have to go into the brain and into the nerves and and kind of like pull them out with tweezers. The body already knows how to do that. It wants to do that, it just needs to be in a state where it feels comfortable doing that.

SPEAKER_02 24:49

Interesting. So that be that became your binder of choice then. There wasn't any others that you found that that uh touched it.

SPEAKER_04 24:54

I'll tell you what, if somebody could get uh 30 to 60 grams of bentonite clay in somebody, I would switch. Because I really don't think the binder matters. I think what matters is how much you get in something. I've never seen so like as an example, there are supplement companies out there with binders, and they will say, oh, this binder has an affinity for mercury. But like in a clinical setting, or I don't even know a lot of these places, it's like like it's not demonstrated, it's not, it's not been demonstrated significantly enough outside of a lab setting to say, oh, look, when we put this in, you know, with this tissue and look how it attaches to the mercury and whatever. Like I've seen all the research and stuff, but I'm like not a researcher, I'm a clinician, and it's like I want to see the results in my practice. Like it just has like in 10 years, it never did that. Like it didn't work that way. Before and after, you know, heavy metal tests and stuff, like I just didn't see it. It wasn't until I just upped the dose of something that that made the biggest difference. And picking and choosing what I wanted to pull out, what I wanted to pull out was not as effective as just letting the body figure it out and letting the body heal the way it wanted to, without micromanaging that process.

SPEAKER_02 25:58

Well, it's confusing. I mean, even I even I, who've been doing this for a number of years, what's a product I just was muscle testing today. Oh, Pepticalt's kind of making its rounds on the Instagrams. Have you ever used that?

SPEAKER_04 26:09

Pepisol, yeah. Yeah, it's a great fiber. Love it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:12

Anyway, so I mean, there's lots of lots of choices.

SPEAKER_04 26:15

What I would say, like what I would say for me is that I do use those things, but they're not my initial thing to use. Um my initial thing to do is is I need to get somebody out of a crisis state so that they can actually metabolize and use these supplements the way they're the way you would expect them to be, right? It's like so many times, and I'm sure this happened to you too, but it's like there's so many times you do a protocol or give a supplement to somebody and you have a certain expectation of how it's going to react and it doesn't. And you're like, well, heck, why didn't it do that? And what I found is that by just doing the Zo charge and dealing with these hidden infections first, all of a sudden all of these supplements, all of these fibers that we're talking about just work better. And they do exactly what I thought they would do. And so it's eliminated a lot of that frustration for me by just dealing with these underlying infections first, dealing with the inflammation first, and then moving into the other stuff.

SPEAKER_02 27:03

Do you okay? So you got Lyme disease, and what I've over the years, and of course you found your uh tick bite pretty quickly. Did you then take some antibiotics? What did you do initially for the when you noticed the Lyme issue?

SPEAKER_04 27:17

No, I didn't any no, um, I didn't do antibiotics. Antibiotics, I mean, after the first 24 hours, the benefit of antibiotics is almost zero. So it's like antibiotics aren't like the go-to thing if you got bit by a tick. And that's the thing. I don't even know if antibiotics are that effective within the first 24 hours anymore.

SPEAKER_02 27:32

Oh my gosh, but if you go it's been a while, I've done some old Facebook forums uh a few years ago, and it's like, my God, people added mold for or Lyme for years, and they're now taking like their fifth round of antibiotics, but it's like, oh my god, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 27:44

I mean, Lyme, I'll just say it this way. Lyme doesn't act like a typical infection. It does a pretty good job of hiding from antibiotics and and other things, right? So I knew not to do that. I mean, when I had the tick, what did I do? I I ripped it off, I put hydrogen peroxide on it for about an hour, uh, and I have a red light. I have a laser, like a red light. So I I used a red light for, you know, I did that for a couple days. And then I just, at the time I wasn't doing this type of detox. I was, you know, I'm like, okay, I've got to, you know, double up my detox protocol and I gotta take a lot of vitamin C and you know, glutathione and all these other things. And so I did that at the time, but I never really got sick right away. It wasn't until like everything hit me all at once that Lyme all of a sudden just made everything else sticky. And that I would say that like Lyme can be tolerated for a lot of people when that's all they have. But the second something else comes in, man, you just get knocked on your butt because Lyme just like synergizes all these other things.

SPEAKER_02 28:38

I'm curious with you. What we've noticed over the years, we had people that have came to us, they've been everywhere, and then they they came to us to do the cleanse, and they've been diagnosed with Lyme. But what we found is a huge parasite load.

unknown 28:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:52

And it's our kind of premise that the Lyme kind of gets gets buried in those parasites because everyone has got a huge, well, all our clients have a huge load of parasites. Well, I shouldn't say all, but quite a few do that come to see us. And we get, I just we don't we don't take that many people, we don't see that many, but we get some pretty sick people, and and we're usually last stop, last hope. With you what you went through, would you is that kind of the thinking that happened to you? Maybe you had the parasites, the Lyme got there buried in the parasites and caused havoc. What's your thoughts?

SPEAKER_04 29:21

How did I get the parasites? I don't know. Could it have been Lyme? Yeah, it could have been Lyme. Usually when I treat people for Lyme, there's almost we all they almost always, I mean, nine times out of ten you're treating them for parasites too. Babe, you know, Babesia is like the most common co-infection for Lyme, and and that's a parasite that lives in your red blood cells. So, like, it would be weird. It would be unusual, not weird. It would be unusual if somebody had Lyme and not parasites. Who was sick? If you're symptomatic, like parasites lived, I always say like parasites love to live in garbage, and it's like what I was a good host because my insights were garbage. I had so many infections, and parasites just loved it. You know, they loved being with the lime and the mold and all the bacterial infections. I mean, even without the colonics, I mean, I was passing parasites left and right. Oh my goodness, you weren't loaded. I was loaded, they were coming out of me in the toilet, like it was disgusting.

SPEAKER_02 30:09

Oh my word.

SPEAKER_04 30:10

Yeah, I didn't need to do a colonic to see them.

SPEAKER_02 30:12

Uh my usually it takes what we find here is it takes several colonics, and then we are using PMF and we're using the herbs and we're using the zappers and we're doing all the things. Whenever somebody comes in and they say, Well, I see parasites today, I says, Well, if you see parasites first day, you are fully loaded. I mean, that's very unusual that we see that happen.

SPEAKER_04 30:30

So I mean, you don't see parasites on stool samples, and mine was high.

SPEAKER_02 30:35

So I always tell people they come out, I've got a I had a test for parasites, and it came up negative, and 10 days later they've got a 26-foot tapeworm coming out of them. So I tell people the parasites don't pop up on a turd and pop out of you and say, Hey, here I am! Here I am, right here, hit me with some herbs.

SPEAKER_04 30:51

Right. Well, I will say this, and this was I mean, there were many things to be angry about between 2020 and 2022. Really? But I think the worst thing that happened was people thought that a negative test meant you didn't have something because everybody was like, look, I got a negative COVID test, so I don't have COVID. And it's like, that's not how tests work. Like you can't do a stool test and not have parasites and be told you don't have parasites because I didn't see it in the sample, the stool that you gave me. Like, it's just absurd to think that a test can prove a negative because it cannot. Like, it's just like that goes against our basic understanding of what testing does. So, anyway, so I had them coming out of me. So I struggled because even even Zeocharge, like Zeolite does not bind to parasites. Zeolite binds to the toxins coming off the parasites, to the toxins coming off of the line, but it's not going to bind to these infections and pull them out of you. That's not what it's designed to do. It's designed to take the byproducts of those things and bind to them and pull them out of you, but not them itself. It wasn't until I learned about phages and in particular native phages, that I was actually able to deal with these toxins in a more complete. Okay, talk about phages. What are phages? Sure. In in really simple terms, phages are good viruses. So if you think about bacteria as being good and bad, right? There's good and bad bacteria, there's good and bad viruses. Phages, in really simple terms, without getting into more detail, are just good viruses. And the way phages work is they live with other hosts, like bacteria, parasites, fungus, that kind of thing. They they live with them. And for your listeners, we have 30 trillion cells on average in us. We have 40 trillion bacteria in and on us, which is why everybody talks about the microbiome, why the microbiome is so central to healing, why if you've got these systemic conditions, you have to heal the microbiome because that's the anchor to all of these other things. It's more important than your cells, more important than your DNA. Your microbiome brings 150 times more DNA to you and me than our own DNA. So, like in 2001, 2001, when they did the genome project, they were like, well, hell, we only have 12, we only have 12,500 folding protein genes that doesn't explain anything. Like doing the genetic stuff doesn't explain stuff. So that's kind of where they they shifted to epigenetics instead of genetics, and they started to look at the microbiome. And then they looked at the microbiome and how much DNA was in the microbiome, and they're like, holy cow, essentially our microbiome, our microbiome brings 150 times more DNA, which is why um a worm has 13,000 full-teen proline genes and we have 12,5. So we have less pro we have pro we have less genes than a worm, but we're well more complicated than them. What makes this more complicated is our microbiome, because we are like the first link and the last link in the genetic chain, and the microbiome makes up the middle of it. And that's why we talk about the microbiome. But on top of that is your virome or the viruses. And the last number I heard was we have about 275 trillion viruses in and on it. So that's more than the bacteria and the cells.

SPEAKER_02 34:06

So essentially what happens is Especially during COVID, they're throwing wanting to throw masks on us, and in our mouth alone is millions and millions and millions and millions of viruses.

SPEAKER_04 34:19

Yes. So all viruses aren't bad. They're actually pretty good and beneficial to us, and phages happen to be one of those beneficial ones, right? And so essentially what happens is when you get an infection, whether it's a staph, a strap, or or lime like borrelia, when that bacteria comes into you, it brings with it about on average 10 phages with it. And these phages are just living in harmony with it. It's not not attacking it, not killing it, it's just there to be with it. In the same way that if you think of a big shark with all the small fish swimming around it, they're just living in harmony. But these phages are what's called monovalent, meaning they only attach themselves and interact with that one thing. So a borrelia phage will never switch and go over to a staph uh staphylococcus phase, you know, to a staphylococcus infection or go over to there. It'll always stay with its own thing. Um and so what this doctor figured out was that um he figured out how to flip a switch in those phages. And the technical term is the phage goes from lysis to lytic. But the generic term for lytic is kill. And so he figured out a way to flip a switch to get those phages to start to kill and attack their host in the same way viruses attack and kill a host. And essentially what happens is that when you flip that switch, they uh kill their host. And when I say kill their host, I mean if you look at it microscopically, it's gone in a couple of seconds, uh in a lot of ways. Uh most of the time, it's just gone. And lit the way lytic kills, it's not enzymatic or anything. It's um not that it's not enzymatic, it's not metabolic. And so it's killing in a way that doesn't create a cytokine storm and it doesn't create um an immune reaction. So you don't technically get a detox or herx reaction from this. So it kills its host and it goes look for something else, but it's monovalent, so it's looking for more borrelia. After it kills its borrelia, it's going to look for more. And essentially what we're doing is we're using the thing that's already inside of you to kill the thing, to kill the infection that's already inside of you. So we don't have to give patients stuff, we just have to trigger the change. And once we trigger the change, the cascading effect is it's just gonna kill until we tell it to stop killing, or it's gonna stop killing when there's nothing left for it to kill, and then they just die and like.

SPEAKER_02 36:53

So what you're saying is you have to set up some kind of a trigger for these phages to turn on. Is that what I hear you're saying?

SPEAKER_04 36:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 36:59

And do you do that with a spark lighter or uh or you do it with a signal? Okay.

SPEAKER_04 37:08

So the signal is embedded in it's very similar to homeopathy, but it's not homeopathy. So if you know anything about homeopathy, things are distilled, right? And then you just take a little drink, and that signal triggers you and your body to act a different way. The difference is that the signal embedded in this tincture is it's like a dog whistle. Like you can't hear it, your body can't react to it. But it's it's targeting those phages. And if you have that infection, and if you have that phage, it'll trigger them to start killing. They'll kill fast, they'll kill clean. And the average is 90% eradication in two weeks.

SPEAKER_02 37:47

Wow. So is this something developed for that person's body? Like, like the only path I can't developed.

SPEAKER_04 37:53

Yeah, I get that. It's not, it's personal, it's it's personalized in the sense of it's developed to target the known infections for Lyme, for mold, the mycotoxins. So like the Lyme formula has about 150 different targets because it's it's specific enough to where these aren't the right names because I can never remember the right names, but there's not just one form of borrelia. There's like borrelia smith eye, and then there's borrelia Jones, and then there's borrelia, you know, David. And the phages that are attached to borrelia david don't attack borrelia smith. They only attack borrelia david. So it's it's like laser focused to its to its specific type of infection. And so when we do this targeting, we're actually blanket targeting all of the known variations of the different infections and coinfections for line. So all the different borelias, all the different Babesias, all the different Bartonellas, all the different Illaricias, all of the, you know, um I can't remember, there's like 200 or something. All of the different infections are all in one little vial. They're stacked in one little vial. And so you can target them all at one time.

SPEAKER_02 39:04

Cool. What's it called?

SPEAKER_04 39:06

It's called inducing because it's inducing a change. It's inducing the phages to attack and kill. The company is yeah, the company is called Phaseian Corp, which Phase Incorp is P-H A-G-E-N-C-O-R-P. And there's tons of science about there's there's tons of research on there. Um, it's a phenomenal product. It changed my life. It literally changed my life. Like, I I honestly, because of all the you, you know, we're talking about parasites and mold and lime and covet and stuff. I literally had myself convinced that it wasn't Lyme because of all the other things going on with me. And I didn't react right away to the tick. And so I didn't treat Lyme in me until after I treated everything else. And I still had these kind of lingering things. And my daughter had my daughter growing up in Maine, we I can't tell you how many ticks we picked off my my 14-year-old daughter now, but like over her life, we probably picked off like eight ticks and they were all engorged and stuff, and I'm just like, oh, I hate Maine. So I made her do the Lyme protocol, and I was like, I'll do it with you. Just to support you, I'll do it with you. Because why not? Um, man, I felt better in 24 hours, and I was like, okay, that negative Lyme test I got, I guess it didn't mean squat. I guess I did have Lyme. Um I felt phenomenal like after 24 hours of just doing it.

SPEAKER_02 40:26

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SPEAKER_04 42:44

It is a huge burden. I mean, that's why I thought, that's why it wasn't a lie for me to say, I think I'm gonna die soon.

SPEAKER_02 42:49

Did you use any black seed oil?

SPEAKER_04 42:51

Blackseed oil?

SPEAKER_02 42:53

Yeah, black.

SPEAKER_04 42:54

Oh, black seed oil, yeah. Yeah. You want to know what made me tank the most?

unknown 42:58

What?

SPEAKER_04 42:58

Ivermectin. The thing that everybody said to take when I was at my worst, they're like, take ivermectin. And I'm like, okay, I'll take ivermectin. Man, I crashed so hard after that. So you think that was a hurtzimmer reaction? What was that?

SPEAKER_02 43:10

Do you think that was more of a hurt somewhere reaction to the ivermectin? I mean, I ivermectin treats what? Just the the little bugs, right?

SPEAKER_04 43:16

Yeah, just the parasites like river blindness bugs and stuff like that. Um, and and honestly, like I got I got an eye injury from it that I still haven't recovered from. I think it was because I was so sick and that was such a a little thing. You know what I mean? It was like using a pea shooter to take down a bear. Like it was just overwhelm it it my body herxed from it essentially, yes, because it just wasn't enough to deal with what I was doing. Did you say black walnut, wormwood clothes, any of that? For years. I did think of every single herbal for parasites that you know of. Think of all of the different products out there. I did those for six years.

SPEAKER_02 43:52

Wow.

SPEAKER_04 43:53

Did a stool sample and still had parasites.

SPEAKER_02 43:56

And your parasites came out and showed themselves.

SPEAKER_04 43:58

They did. Like Like I it's hard for me because it's like I feel like the people who taught me knew what they were doing. They 100% knew what they were doing. I've been in the field for 10 years. I was doing detox 10 years ago before people were talking about detox. I was doing keto and fasting before it became popular or anything like that. A lot of the people I trained with are the people who made that popular. So like I've been in this field long enough to see a huge change. And it's hard for me to say that the protocols I learned from these really genuinely intelligent people, caring people, just weren't enough and there needed to be something different. And so I consider what I'm doing an iteration of what everybody else has taught me. And when you're sick, like I was, you have no dog in the game. I could have cared less what got me better. If somebody had come along and they had rubbed two chicken bones together and it got me better, I would not have cared. I would have been like, great, let's figure out why it got me better. I didn't care. So I was very willing to let go of everything I had done in the past that I thought was good and true and worthy. And I was like, look, if it's not helping me, it's not helping me. I just have to, I have to figure that out and that's a hard thing for a lot of people to do. And sometimes it's hard for me to say because we're all doing our best. And what I'm doing is legitimately cutting edge in the sense of these inducent are have been out for a year. That's it. You know?

SPEAKER_02 45:22

Oh, wow. So pretty short term.

SPEAKER_04 45:24

It it's very, very new. The the doctors who are using it, I mean, they're like, you know, there's a lot of docs across the country using it. You know, a lot of well, I don't know what the term. They're they're all like Lyme doctors and other things. Because but you can kill more than Lyme with it. I mean, you can target mold, parasites, you can target GI infections, candida. It's just a different way of getting to these infections. But it really is, you know, in a very real sense, cutting edge and new. It it was tested for four years before he made it available. He treated 200,000 people in his clinics across the US before making it available to anybody else. Um researched, very well handled. Zo, I'll tell you, the last thing I'll say about this is that my mother-in-law had undiagnosed Lyme for 15 years. And my functional health practice was mostly Lyme. And I would help people. It would take me three months, six months, but I would help people. I would take people who had no energy and were bedridden. And you know, the example I use is one of them wanted to surf and she went and surfed like six months after starting. And I considered that success. I didn't consider it healing, though. And the reason I never considered it healing is because I could never do any killers without them hurting or relapsing. But I could rebuild them, like I could help them rebuild their microbiome, rebuild their resilience, and they got their life back and they got their energy back. But I never called it healing because they still had to be on these strict diets, they still had to be on these supplement protocols, they couldn't cheat, they didn't have resilience, they couldn't like take a two weeks off of their supplements and maintain their progress, which at the time I was like, that's fine. Like you got your life back. They were happy, they got their life back, but they were tied to these protocols because we never really were able to eliminate the infection. Now, my most remarkable case of somebody just doing zeolite and the inducin, the Lyme inducant. I had a 20-something-year-old girl with MS, and her main symptom was optic neuritis. So there were like all these scratches in her vision. Wow. And she was like, Will this help? And I honestly said, I don't know. But it'll get rid of the infection for you. And if the infection is causing your MS, then yeah, it'll it'll help. In eight days, her eye was 90% better.

SPEAKER_02 47:38

Wow. And she was on the um zeolite?

SPEAKER_04 47:40

She was on the zeolite and she was doing the inducin for Lyme. So she was killing Lyme and stuff like that. And then we stopped because she was in her 20s and she's like, okay, thanks, bye. And then two weeks later, that it all kind of gradually came back and it came back. And we talked about it, and I was like, Well, do you think you want to do a little bit more than 10 days? Because that's not a long time. She's like, Yeah, let's do another 10 days for Tola 20. And then I'm not even kidding you, the exact same thing happened on day seven. She messaged me. She's like, I don't think this is working. You know, I think it's something else. Then she went to bed and she woke up and it was 90% better. But this time it stuck. This time we had killed enough of the infection because people don't realize how tied together Lyme and MS is because they're neurotoxins. Like they're really tied together. And so because she had just been diagnosed with with MS and was young in her 20s, she responded very, very quickly to it. And it was just the zeoline and it was just the inducing. And that was a year ago. She was one of my first clients doing this. Um and she's still fine. And she's still fine. And you know what she hasn't done? Any of the gut rebuilding stuff, so it doesn't come back. She hasn't done any of that because she's in her 20s and she's like, I'm fine. Well, that's human nature. Right, right. And I'm not saying that to pick on her or anything, I'm just saying that because I really wanted her to rebuild, and she's like, I'll be fine. And she's been fine. Like her body's healed and it's recovered and resilient, and she's doing different things, and she's doing she's on her own path, and that's great. And I was able to help her, you know, take that step that she needed to step, needed to take. But that's like the most remarkable thing I've ever seen doing this that I wasn't expecting.

SPEAKER_02 49:17

Wow. That's pretty incredible.

SPEAKER_04 49:19

How do people get a hold of you? They can go, I think they can search me on social media if they want, it's just Dr. Chris Molda. My website is drmolda.com. I have a Lyme webpage called LimeMadeSimple.com. Um, that's more dedicated to you know teaching about Lyme and the Lyme protocol and stuff. Um But that's how people can get in touch with me.

SPEAKER_02 49:38

Awesome. What else? What anything else you want to cover?

SPEAKER_04 49:42

No, no. I, you know, that's that's kind of the meat of it. Uh, you know, what I would say is this is like that's usually the start for people. And what I've noticed over the past year of doing this is that there's a percentage of people that get huge results after just doing this, which is about 30 days. So people get some people get huge results after 30 days, like this MS patient. Other people, it's not just the in presence of the infection, but it's all the damage that the infection has made, right? So it's kind of like if you have termites in your house, you get rid of the termites, but then you got to deal with the damage they made. So I would say that there's this kind of two-step pro, well, there's three steps. First, we have to figure out what infections you have. Then we have to treat those infections, reduce the inflammation. And then finally, if you need help rebuilding, then that's kind of where everything else comes into play. That's when all of the things I've ever done, I start to use. I'm virtual, so I usually send people to places. Like if I had somebody where you are, I'd be like, go see them, go do the clinics, go do all that stuff because it's gonna help you heal faster. It's gonna help your body detox faster, it's gonna support everything that your body should be doing. My job is to get rid of the infection and then let let your body heal itself.

SPEAKER_05 50:49

Um that last phase is.

SPEAKER_02 50:51

Yeah, by the time they get to you, have they already had some? Do you do testing? Do you have to go get some tests online? To is that where you start? Or some, or is it a lot of people says, you know, I've had this for this, for this, this way, I've done five different things that hasn't worked, and and this is what we know to be true.

SPEAKER_04 51:07

And somebody yeah, if somebody comes to me and they've already had a positive diagnosis of something, which most people do, most people are shopping and searching and stuff, then I I I honor whatever they've been tested positive for because to be blunt, it's still in them. Like these infections don't go away. Mold doesn't just go away. I mean, when they do mold studies and they do brain scans, you know, if you've ever been exposed to mold and they scan your brain, they're gonna find mold in your brain because your body hides toxins in fat and your brain is the highest concentration of fat. So like these things just get stuck in you like splinters. So if somebody came to me and saying, five years ago I tested positive for Lyme, I still have these symptoms. Do you need a new test? I'd say, no, you still have Lyme. Like it's still there. So I wouldn't need to push that person into a $1,500 Lyme test in order to do the protocol. I would kind of honor what they already know. Um when I was in school, I had a professor in FISDI or physical diagnosis who, you know, told uh told us that 80% of your diagnosis comes from the conversation with the patient. The uh the 20% confirming what you think will be the labs. Um and so don't rely, I never relied on labs to tell me what was wrong with the person. I always relied on my conversation, and then the labs are there to confirm a question that me or the patient has. And there's great there's great questionnaires for Lyme, there's you know, for for mold, for parasites out there that can that can tell you how likely it is that this is what you're doing.

SPEAKER_02 52:37

Have you found a good reliable mold test for for the house, for the house or the office to detest?

SPEAKER_04 52:43

No, for the house. The company that I like to use is called pure maintenance.

SPEAKER_02 52:47

Peer maintenance.

SPEAKER_04 52:48

Yeah, and what pure maintenance does is they actually do a dense fog. And um, what me and my wife just figured out, and like you, if you see mold in your house, the way you get rid of mold is by a combination of hydrogen peroxide and vinegar, because it'll kill it. Hydrogen peroxide and vinegar will kill the mold. So you can get rid of mold like uh in your basement or something like that um with hydrogen peroxide. And again, I'm gonna dumb it down. It's more complicated than this. But essentially what they do is they take hydrogen peroxide and vinegar and then they densely fog your house. And when you when you put a dense fog in a room, it pushes all of those particles, microscopic particles, in all the nooks and crannies where where mold can get, and it'll kill it. And then what they do is is they they do a net another coating of this, I can't remember what it's called, but essentially what it does is it coats everything on a microscopic level, uh, and it creates these spikes on all of the um material that will puncture and kill the mold so it doesn't live and and spray mycotoxins. And the majority of people aren't allergic to mold, they're allergic to the mycotoxins or they react to mycotoxins. So um, once you kill the mold, it's fine. And so that second layer prevents mold from attaching itself to your house and thriving in your house. Second you open your window, you're gonna get mold into your house. I mean, that's just the way life is. Uh, but we just don't want it to live and thrive in our environment and create these toxic buildups. And so I like that company. They're the least toxic company I've ever used. I use them on my house, I use them on my family's house. I recommend it.

SPEAKER_02 54:18

They come out physically to do this or is this they you buy a kit.

SPEAKER_04 54:21

What's no, they come and they come and do it.

unknown 54:24

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 54:25

Yeah. I think they charge per square foot, right? So it's like if you're gonna do your whole house and you've got like whatever, 20,000 square feet, they'll just multiply that by a certain dollar amount and say that's how much it costs. I think. Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_02 54:37

Yeah. So yeah, we've I've I've met some people super sick for years, couldn't figure it out, and then decided to do a re this one gal, oh my gosh, she'd blow it up, she'd gained 80 pounds, like poof. And the darndest thing was is that decided, let's let's remodel, tore out the sliding glass door, and behind it was all the mold. And it was bad enough for her to make her sick, and she was sick. Well, she's still recovering. It's like a 25-year journey.

SPEAKER_04 55:02

Yeah, mold sucks. I hate mold. I mean, my last name is mold. I hate mold. Like it's just it's I know.

SPEAKER_02 55:09

I thought we were talking about getting detoxifying the mold when I first got here. Uh I had another guy that reached back to me to do like a podcast about mold, and I go, mold, mold. I just had a guy about mold, and I'm so I was very confused for a few days, like trying to figure it out. We talk about mold? Yeah. I thought the guy canceled.

SPEAKER_04 55:28

So I got the perfect name to talk about this. But yeah, mold, mold is mold is just, I mean, it used before I like to put it this way. Before I started to use this company, I would just tell people, I don't know what to do, move, or tear your entire house down to the studs and then rebuild it. Like those are honestly your option with mold.

SPEAKER_02 55:46

What does the Bible talk about burning down the house with mold in it? Yeah. You know, I truly believe my mother has got dementia Alzheimer's, and she's got a bump on her head, and I've come to the conclusion that she's got she had a high amount of mold, the house they lived in that they built, and that's just my belief. We have some machines that we've been using for years that help kill mold uh through the air. But and I run them all with it.

SPEAKER_04 56:10

Like filters and like filters and stuff?

SPEAKER_02 56:11

Yeah, it's uh uh uh yes, it's it's it's uh basically a little uh air filter machine. It's rated pretty high by NASA, kills 99.9% of COVID on surfaces and staff and strep and mold too. So we run those machines a lot.

SPEAKER_04 56:26

Are you comfortable saying what it is? I'm curious.

SPEAKER_02 56:28

Yeah, yeah. The the company's called Valara.

SPEAKER_04 56:30

Oh, okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 56:31

Yeah, it's called uh what's the machine called? I don't know. We've we've been I've been using the machine. I bought the machines in the 90s, and I had you know a lot of real estate, and so you know, anytime a tenant had some poopy dogs or whatever, I'd put those things in there. When we when we replaced the carpet in the building here uh eight years ago, you know how you have that glue smell to gas off? We'd get we'd gas it off in five days running those machines.

SPEAKER_04 56:55

Nice.

SPEAKER_02 56:56

So because it takes you know a brand new home, people don't realize this. The most toxic thing you can buy is a brand new home. You got saw you got sheetrock dust in the in the uh vents because what happens? HPAC comes in, drills the holes, puts in the vents, sheetrock tapers come in, put up the sheetrock, tape it, dust it. And now you got all this filth in your ducts. First thing you should do out by a home, suck out the ducts, get one of these machines, and run it, and run it for you know five, six days before you even move in. Especially you got the paint, the glues. You know, I mean, these brand new homes are super toxic and no one realizes it.

SPEAKER_04 57:31

And on top of that, brand new homes are energy efficient, which means that there's no circulation.

SPEAKER_02 57:38

I know! Give me that 1950 farmhouse that's good that the wind blows through the window. You don't have to open the window that just comes through. It's probably a safer home.

SPEAKER_04 57:48

It probably is well, I would probably guarantee it's a less toxic home. That is 100% true. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 57:54

Yeah. No, we it's it's pretty amazing what we don't know, or what's worse when we don't know, that's not so. And uh, so yeah, we've learned a lot in the last five, six years for sure, especially with the all the BS of COVID. And yeah, I went through mold recently, and uh that was an interesting experience.

SPEAKER_04 58:12

So speaking of uh speaking of mold, so I've done mold on me and I've done it on a lot of people, and I would say mold is one of the more interesting uh formulas to use with the inducin because almost everybody gets a headache while they're doing it. Really? And it's it's not a permanent headache, it's uh, ooh, it hurts right here for like 15 minutes and then it goes away. And then like the next day, it'll be like, ooh, it hurts over here. And that's kind of I saw that a lot, and that's kind of why I started to look into the research with mold, and it's like, yeah, mold gets stuck in your brain because again, it's fat soluble. It gets, you know, your body's protecting you from it, so it's finding fat to sh to shuttle it in and protect you. But that's what phages do, they kill these things. And essentially, I think people are just feeling feeling the mold die.

SPEAKER_02 58:57

That is just fascinating. I'm really I'm gonna try that out on myself, and then I'll try it on my mother and see what happens. I was like big bump on our head because I truly believe everything's healable. And the problem is when you're in assisted living centers, they're all set up for big pharma, and you gotta get the doctor to write a prescription. And if you go through the pharmacy depending upon the pharmacy, they gotta encapsulate it so it's easy for the text to distribute, which I understand. Don't want to make mistakes, right? Because I'm kind of natural supplements, and the problem that I have had is they've been fairly, you know, not too bad, but they're like, no, no, we can't do that one. No, no. So getting supplements and game to to take that is it's really hard. Like this, the one pharmacy says, Well, we buy it off of Amazon and then we market up 40% to and to put it in the bubble wrap. I'm going, like, well, first of all, half the stuff on Amazon's fake.

SPEAKER_05 59:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 59:52

And I don't want that crap. I want the good stuff, and I can get it. I can get it wholesale. I mean, I'm in the right.

SPEAKER_05 59:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 59:58

And that pharmacy says, nope, we can't do it that way. Next group I got, no problem. They worked with me great. So it's and but but the reality is most people with their, you know, in in those situations, it's high carb meals and it's mostly meds.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:12

Yeah. I mean, there's it, there's always going to be that lifestyle component. There's always going to be that diet and lifestyle. I mean, I I still think it's like, how do you live a healthy life? Well, you have you have good relationships with people, you exercise, you know, you have a good relationship with God, you you eat well. Like it's not that gets some sunlight, like it's not that hard. But I think what's made it more complicated uh to be blunt is all of the all of the industrialized toxic junk we're exposed to on a daily basis, on top of all the pharmacology that we're exposed to in our food system, even, that just shuts our body down and and does like a tremendous amount of damage and sets us up to have these kind of chronic diseases.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:51

So I only eat out about five times a year because I don't trust the food chain anymore. You look at what Gates is doing and the mRNA crap they want to inject and all the even fruits and vegetables. I'm going to a barbecue tonight at a political event, and I'm not going to touch a piece of the food because I don't know where it came from.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:09

Right. I would not either.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:11

Yeah. Well, awesome. Well, thank you for uh being on this. I see my screen froze here.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:17

Do I look frozen?

SPEAKER_04 1:01:18

It's not a bad look. That's okay. It's you should not make a funny face.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:21

All right. Well, thanks for coming on with you. So, folks, reach out to him, drmolda.com, and I'll put all every all the things in the show notes on the podcast, hold by detox show. You can find on Spotify, Amazon, or not Amazon, uh, Apple. We're we're we're found on all of them. All the all the good all the good spots.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:38

All the platforms. On all the platforms.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:40

All the things. That's right. All right. Well, thanks for coming on. Nice to appreciate it.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:45

Thank you very much. This was a pleasure.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:47

Yeah. David Dehanas from Living Waters Wellness Center, where miracles begin by healing from within. Until next week. Have a blessed week, my friends.