July 13, 2026

280.The Truth About Detox, Colon Health & Gut Healing with Dr. Daniel Nuzum | How Toxicity Affects Every System in Your Body

280.The Truth About Detox, Colon Health & Gut Healing with Dr. Daniel Nuzum | How Toxicity Affects Every System in Your Body

Detox Starts in the Gut: Why Colon Health Is the Foundation of Whole-Body Wellness "There are more gold nuggets of information in this Show than a Gold Mine," David DeHaas, What if many chronic health issues—from fatigue and brain fog to skin conditions, digestive disorders, and poor metabolism—could be connected to one overlooked system in the body? David DeHaas welcomes Dr. Daniel Newsom, a naturopathic physician with decades of experience in detoxification, nutrition, acupuncture, an...

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Detox Starts in the Gut: Why Colon Health Is the Foundation of Whole-Body Wellness

"There are more gold nuggets of information in this Show than a Gold Mine," David DeHaas,

What if many chronic health issues—from fatigue and brain fog to skin conditions, digestive disorders, and poor metabolism—could be connected to one overlooked system in the body?

David DeHaas welcomes Dr. Daniel Newsom, a naturopathic physician with decades of experience in detoxification, nutrition, acupuncture, and traditional natural medicine. Together, they explore why true healing begins in the digestive tract and how proper detoxification supports every major organ system.

Drawing on years of clinical practice, Dr. Newsom shares remarkable patient stories, including dramatic weight loss transformations, recovery from chronic digestive dysfunction, and the role that colon health plays in restoring metabolic balance.

This conversation dives into the relationship between the digestive system, liver, lymphatic system, immune function, and overall vitality. You'll learn why regular elimination matters, how poor gut function can contribute to systemic inflammation, and why nutrition and detoxification work hand in hand.

In this episode, you'll discover:

  • Why colon health is the foundation of overall wellness
  • How detoxification supports liver and lymphatic function
  • The connection between constipation and chronic inflammation
  • What happens when toxins are continually reabsorbed
  • Why gut health influences skin, energy, metabolism, and immune function
  • The importance of proper nutrition during detoxification
  • How environmental toxins may contribute to chronic illness
  • Understanding Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth (SIBO)
  • Why detoxification requires more than simply removing toxins
  • Practical insights into supporting natural digestive function
  • Inspiring patient success stories and clinical experiences
  • The philosophy behind traditional naturopathic medicine

Whether you're interested in gut health, functional medicine, natural detoxification, holistic healing, nutrition, or preventative wellness, this episode provides valuable perspectives on supporting the body's natural healing processes.

About the Guest

Dr. Daniel Newsom is a naturopathic physician, educator, and practitioner specializing in natural medicine, detoxification, nutrition, metabolism, acupuncture, and holistic wellness. Coming from a family of naturopathic physicians, Dr. Newsom has spent decades helping patients restore health through lifestyle medicine, nutritional support, and evidence-informed natural therapies.

Learn more about Dr. Daniel Nuzum:

Website: https://drnuzum.com

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David DeHaas

Founder of Living Waters Wellness Center

David has dedicated decades to educating people about digestive health, detoxification, nutrition, and natural healing through clinical practice and educational podcasts.

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SPEAKER_03

Here's the thing to think about. Your liver processes every drop of blood in your body every three minutes. Amazing. That's amazing. So it's filtering, it's processing, because it's doing more than just filtering, right? It is processing every drop of blood every three minutes. That's a massive amount of processing going on in that liver, right? And the the liver has to concentrate all those toxins that are in there and then dumps the toxins into the bile that it it shoots out every 20 minutes. Okay, so bile leaves the liver every 20 minutes. About two-thirds of what comes out gets stored up in the gallbladder, right? The other third goes right down the chute. So think about this. The bile duct, okay, the chute that comes out of the liver, that connects to the intestines right below the stomach. So every toxic material that your liver's cleaning out of the blood ends up into your digestive tract right at the very top. And if that river is not flowing, you're gonna reabsorb everything your liver just filtered out.

SPEAKER_05

And then what happens when it can't pick it up? You've got subcutaneous tissue, you've got hives and riches and psoriasis. All this stuff. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03

So one of the naturopathic concepts with skin disorders is when the gut isn't eliminating well, the you have what's called auto-intoxification. So you have reabsorption of all the toxic waste and more because you got tissue with poop stuck to it. And here's another gross fact about two-thirds of the water that enters your system through your digestive tract does so through your colon. Okay, now think about this. Here's your colon, you got poop on the wall of the colon. The water you drink has to go through the poop before it gets to the wall of the colon. So how do you not absorb that? Honestly, so I mean, this is the fact of life, right? And so if that isn't eliminated consistently, or if you're not eliminating consistently, then you're reabsorbing all of that. Well, depending on who you talk to, anywhere from 55 to 80 percent of all of the lymphatic tissue in the human body surrounds the gut in the digestive system. If the digestive system is toxic and it's leaking those toxins into the bloodstream, that lymphatic system that surrounds the digestive tract is like the first line of defense to try to catch that literal crap coming in, right? Okay, and what happens is that portion, which is anywhere from 55 to 80 percent of all of the lymphatic tissue in the body gets chalk full of crap. When that happens, none of the rest of the lymphatic system can drain very well because it's it's a closed system and it has to all of it has to drain or none of it drains, right? And what does it drain too though?

SPEAKER_04

Explain explain the whole thing.

SPEAKER_03

Well, yeah, yeah. Here's so it drains back into the bloodstream. Because there's no pump. There's no pump. Okay, so all of that waste then goes back into the bloodstream and has to be reprocessed through the liver. Right.

SPEAKER_05

The following information is for educational and entertainment purposes only and is not meant to diagnose, treat, prevent, cure, or prescribe for any medical or psychological conditions. Seek out the opinion of a qualified healthcare professional if you need medical attention. The guests of this show provide their own opinions and may not represent the values or beliefs of Living Waters Wellness Center or Hold by D Talk Show. And welcome everyone to today's Hold by D Talk Show. I'm David De Haas from Living Waters Wellness Center. Living Waters Wellness Center was formed after we discovered how to heal my body from multiple symptoms, including allergies, asthma, chronic fatigue, back pain, psoriasis, acne, hives, yeast infection, and finally cancer. And I did it all naturally. My guest today is Dr. Daniel Newsom. I met him first about what, 10, 15 years ago, I think. Yeah, yeah. Give a little presentation out of INAHO. He's a naturopathic physician. He's also osteopathic, he's first in acupuncture and medical. And he even knows my good mentor, the mentor I never met, met him personally, Dr. Bernard Jetson, who I've talked about in the show. Awesome. The guy who built the first colon hydrotherapy systems and was doing treatments in his ranch in California. My first episode, you should go listen to with Dr. Ellen Tart Jetson, his daughter-in-law, who helped us. Yeah. Wonderful lady. Episodes one. Hey Daniel, welcome to the show.

SPEAKER_03

Thank you. Hey, it's great to be here. Thank you so much. And uh yeah, we've known each other for quite a while. And, you know, we're we're in that same circle of I call it traditional medicine people. The traditional medicine people are the people that do real medicine. Medicine, you know, your modern medicine people are doing the alternative because that's that's all new medicine. It's not right. It's 1920. Right, right. It's you know, our medicine is thousands of years old, theirs is a hundred years old. And so, you know, I I look at us as being more the traditional medicine people because it's traditionally what people used for medicine. And uh so it's it's great to be here. Thank you.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, yeah. We've like I say, we've had similar you kicked a few people my way that were pretty backed up.

SPEAKER_03

Yes. I I don't know if I can say this on here, but my dad my my wife and I wrote a book about ten years ago. We published a book on detox, and uh my parents used to live in Ohio, they live here now, but before they moved here, uh right after we published our book, of course I sent dad and mom a copy of the book, right? You know, we get there, we get there in the evening, and we have dinner with dad and mom and all my brothers and sisters, and then we get the kids off to bed. We all end up going to bed. It was pretty late by the time we got there. In the morning, we get up and dad comes walking out of his study. My parents are naturopathic doctors as well. Fantastic. So I it's it's uh it's in our blood, you know. He comes walking out, he's got my book, and he's looking at it, he's got it open, and he walks up to me and he says, You know what? You are the meanest doctor I've ever met. I'm like, What makes you say why? Why would you say that? What's what makes you say that? And he's like, You tell your patients they're full of shit, and then you prove it to them.

SPEAKER_05

The tube is five eighths of an inch in diameter, right? And one of the problems with that is they they fill you up, so it's a little pressurized and they fill you, fill you until you say, no more. Yeah. And they kind of massage your belly. But if the poop's bigger than five eighths, which most of the time it's gonna be, they gotta break.

SPEAKER_03

Quite often. Exactly.

SPEAKER_05

It's gotta get down the tube, spit out, broke. Oh my gosh. Tell the story.

SPEAKER_03

So that was back at the Central State's College of Health Sciences, that was in Columbus, Ohio. We had uh colon hydrotherapy as one of our required courses. And so uh we had 10 of us in the class, and the lady who would was teaching the colon hydrotherapy was a medical doctor, and she was a parasitologist. She and she had these, she had 3,000 parasites that she had cataloged and discovered. Wow. They were her discoveries, right? And all from people and she found them through colon hydrotherapy. Okay, so we go into her clinic, and this is probably the in school, we had to do 10 colonics. We had to receive and give 10 colonics. We had to help someone else through 10 colonics, but we also had the experience, so we had to go through 10 colonics.

SPEAKER_05

That was part of the closed system colonic then, right?

SPEAKER_03

Closed system colonics, right, right.

SPEAKER_05

And let me explain that. We please we use an open system, it's gravity-fed water, very gentle. That's what we do down here. You know, it's just that's it, you know, this size. It can't go down the five-inch tube. You get off the bed, go to the toilet, figure it all out, poop, go around the tube. The tube stays in the whole time. Ectal tube the size of a pencil, it's inserting your rectum. So water trickles in, and then eventually it's gonna dissolve the poop, hydrate the tissue, and let's the if it's a big, big bunch of poop, like a I don't know if you're with Jensen, but you were getting training colon hydrotherapy and the the closed system and the tube is so now closed. Of course, I did a lot of things wrong, experimenting on myself. Sure, sure. But you know, figured things out along the way. And who knew? No one grows up to be a colon hydrotherapist. I was never gonna be doing that.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah. Who is it? Right, right. My when we when we published our book, yeah. My now my wife's Mexican, okay, and her all of her family lives in Mexico, and we did a a translation of the book for her parents, and we gave it to and uh her dad had never even heard of enemas or colonics or anything like that. And so he decided to do a coffee enema. Well, he got his bed all nice and you know, a towel on there just in case he spilt a little bit or this, that, whatever, and got all comfortable in his bed, right? And proceeded to do the first ever coffee enema he had ever had in his entire life. Right. Never had a well, you know, about the moment the coffee started entering his colon, he had to go to the bathroom. He didn't make it and you know, crapped all over the bed and everything. He's like, How do you do this thing? I don't know. Poor guy. He has has learned how to do it properly.

SPEAKER_05

On our system, you're on the toilet if you will. You're on a very special bed. So it just goes around a tube and out. So wonderful. Now you go ahead and take it from there.

SPEAKER_03

So uh it's this closed system, right? And so in this office, this lady had five stations, all you know, had a partition wall that didn't go all the way to the ceiling, but up pretty close to the ceiling. And then they had you know curtains and everything. So you're it's private, but you could hear everybody in in, you know, all throughout the the whole facility. But around the the border of the whole facility, she had shelves two, sometimes three shelves deep of these parasites that she had discovered, samples of the parasites in formaldehyde in jars sitting all around this this this room, right? And so it was it was kind of ominous, it was really pretty gross to look up, and there's you know all these different parasites. It was you know, she used it for teaching, which is a good good deal, but it it was kind of gross. Long story short, we're in there. This is probably our fifth or sixth treatment that we had been through. And the the exit was at the end, and so there's there's exit, and then you got these five stations, and there was a hallway, right? Well, station number one, right by the exit, the pipe broke. What all of a s all of a sudden, whatever was going down the drain all of a sudden was going up to the ceiling and spraying everywhere, right? Okay, because the partition walls didn't go all the way to the ceiling, right? And so you got station ones shooting crap up in the air and it's going everywhere. Well, as you know, people are getting rained on, they're they're yeah, trying to get out of there. They were trying to help whoever's on the table get off the table, get unplugged, and get, you know, and they're you know, ready to have a bow moment. You know what I'm saying? They uh they're in the middle of having a bow moment half the time, you know. Station number three, then the tube pops, and everything we're getting sprayed from two different stations.

SPEAKER_05

Oh my gosh, there's more than one call at a time, and you've got them both going bad. Two of them throwing poop up in the air. It was terrible, literally raining shit.

SPEAKER_03

It was raining shit. A true shit storm. It was uh because we got 11, 12 people in this room, right? And so we're trying to unhook whoever's hooked up to the machines, help them get dressed, get out, you know, and in the hubbub of all of it, somehow there was, you know, people hitting the walls or something. I don't know what happened, but all those parasit those jars of parasites started falling like diamond, like dominoes. So we it was raining parasites and formaldehyde and poop. Oh wow is absolutely horrible. And so uh we had to go to a different clinic after that. She didn't let us back after that. It's kind of nice. We actually the clinic we went to was a clinic like yours and had the they had uh I think they were called the Libby. Yes, we have the Libby, that's what they had in the Libby, you know. That and that was so nice. Yes the other one was a proverbial pain in the butt.

SPEAKER_05

It was kind of is and just has to be in the room with you and for some. The whole time. Yeah, the whole time, and so it's kind of hard to release it. But I'd say more people like the open system, I would say yeah, for sure, for sure. And uh they are just they're a hundred times more comfortable, that's for sure.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, definitely. I I've done them all, and so was when I first you know heard you know, I was told by an urologist in 1994, David, how often do you move? I don't know, every other day, every couple of days. Why? David, not good. You need to do colonics. What's that? Yeah. And at that time in Boise, Idaho, I didn't know of a place to go to. It isn't like you open up the yellow pages and Yeah, I knew a colonic. Yeah. I did learn years later when we got started with this that there had been a gal, but she's worked out of her home. She just did people she knew.

SPEAKER_03

But I had to fix up my own system and in the you know, frantic trying to get out of there, right? So yeah, you know, you know, I repeated.

SPEAKER_05

You told me a story a few years ago, and I love you to tell this story. You remember the story you told me we were since then, but get some colonics first. Right right.

SPEAKER_03

No kidding.

SPEAKER_05

So much easier. So much easier to do that.

SPEAKER_03

Yes. That was we I had a the back in Ohio, the largest man I ever treated. He weighed six hundred brought right around six hundred and seventy pounds.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

He is six foot one tall, but six foot eight round. Oh my goodness. Guy was enormous. He had actually gone to see chiropractor friend of mine for because his his back and bothered. Well, the chiropractor, I saw you've met me. I'm I'm not a small guy. I'm kind of on the bigger side guy, and but the chiropractor he went to was maybe five five and a hundred and forty pounds. Oh no. Soaking wet, you know. No, I can't do anything for you. He's like, you need to go see Doc. And so he he sends them over to me, and you know, I was able to get his upper back and neck. There was nothing that guy could do for his lower back, and so I was I I started talking to him. I said, you know, we have to we gotta get this weight off. And he's like, Yeah, I I went and consulted about the uh the lap band and this and that, whatever. And I said I have to get down to 300 pounds before they can do it, because the table won't hold you if you're over three hundred pounds. And he was six hundred and seventy pounds. And so we're talking about metabolism and metabolic processes and stuff like that. And I explained to him that the you know, actually your colon's a really good barometer for your metabolism. So if you're not having very many bowel movements, then your metabolism's not working very well, or or if you're having too many bowel movements, you might be hyperactive, you know, metabolically. And so we we He's like, Doc, I'm regular. I said, Okay, well, I doubt that. But explain that to me. He's like, every Tuesday and Friday, whether I need it or not. Ah, Tuesday and Friday. I said, Well, his name was Jerry. I said, Jerry, hold on, hold on. Tell me, tell me, how often do you eat? He's like, Well, he goes, like, you know, hands on I'll have you know I don't snack. I was well, good. Okay, that's good to know. I said, What do you what do you eat? He's like, Well, I only eat three times a day. I he says, I eat three times a day. He said, He taps his belly, he said, but I don't miss a meal. I said, Okay, all right, well, so let's do the math here. I said, You're eating three times a day, so that's seven days a week, right? So that's 21 meals a day, or 21 meals a week, but you're only having two bow moments a week. I said, Jerry, where's the other 19 meals? He goes, puts his hands on his belly, says, No. I said, Where else would it go? And so I worked with him. We did basically the equivalent of my two-week detox that you can find on our website at drnewsum.com.

SPEAKER_05

That's dr newsum, right?

SPEAKER_03

Yes, dr and u-z-u-m.com. They so I had him for I worked with this guy for four years. And he every month he did the two-week detox and then we worked on his insulin and thyroid. Two-week detox, and then we worked insulin and thyroid for two weeks on one, two weeks on the other. The guy lost 430 pounds in four years. And his last bit, uh, he ended up getting down to like two, like two hundred twenty-five, two thirty. And his last like thirty pounds that he lost was when they they had to remove the skin, the excess skin that he had. Uh poor guy, he he he had so much left over, you know, excess skin. Yeah, he had to roll it up like a newspaper and stick it under his belt. Wow, and so they they it was pretty easy procedure for him. He didn't even end up with much of a scar, but they they removed like 30 pounds of skin at the very end. Well, he ended up moving off, moving out of town. I I lost track of him after that, but for four years, that's what he did. He detoxed for two weeks and did things to speed up his metabolism.

SPEAKER_05

During that time, it's probably not a good one. He did.

SPEAKER_03

Yes, yes, we did I did get him at first. It was at the at the beginning to get things moving, but actually we it that Yeah, I think our bed's only a limit.

SPEAKER_05

My bed limits.

SPEAKER_03

I that's what I was gonna say. I think it was about I think it was actually the second year. Yeah. Because he had to lose a good amount of weight before he could get on. So it was it was second, third year, actually. Wow. I I I think if I remember right, I think he ended up kind of getting stopped up. Yeah. And that's what we that finally became an option. That's what it was. Man, it's been a long time. That's right. 25 years ago.

SPEAKER_05

What a great story, though. I mean, you know, amazing stuff. Oh, yeah, yeah, totally. And people don't realize is that just what that's doing systemically. Like I tell people, why are you you know, they I I well, especially with women, I talk about how we're I call it pooping in the pelvis. Like getting this from Doc Doc Abdiet talks, uh, Daryl Wolf. I don't know if you've met him. Daryl, I know Daryl, yes. Anyway, he's got the the the term pooping in your pelvis, which I think is perfect. That's really a good way to put it, yeah, right? Yeah, where's it? Why do your armpits stink? It's because you're pooping in your pelvis. It's getting systemic, and and you shouldn't have to put I haven't warbed under arm deodorant in 25 years plus. Right, right.

SPEAKER_03

So I started doing you know, the here's the thing to think about. Your liver, your liver processes every drop of blood in your body every three minutes. Amazing. That's amazing. So it's filtering, it's processing because it's doing more than just filtering, right? It is processing every drop of blood every three minutes. That's a massive amount of processing going on in that liver, right? And the the liver has to concentrate all those toxins that are in there and then dumps the toxins into the bile that it it shoots out every 20 minutes. Okay, so bile leaves the liver every 20 minutes. About two-thirds of what comes out gets stored up in the gallbladder, right? The other third goes right down the chute. So think about this. The bile duct, okay, the chute that comes out of the liver, that connects to the intestines right below the stomach. Right. So every toxic material that your liver's cleaning out of the blood ends up into your digestive tract right at the very top. And if that if that river is not flowing, you're gonna reabsorb everything your liver just filtered out.

SPEAKER_05

And then what happens when it can't pick it up? We've got subcutaneous tissue, you've got hives and riches and psoriasis. All this stuff.

SPEAKER_03

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_06

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03

So one of the the naturopathic concepts with skin disorders is when the gut isn't eliminating well, the you have what's called auto-intoxification. So you have reabsorption of all the toxic waste and more because you got tissue with poop stuck to it, you know. And here's another gross fact about two-thirds of the water that enters your system through your digestive tract does so through your colon. Okay, now think about this. Here's your colon, you got poop on the wall of the colon. The water you drink has to go through the poop before it gets to the wall of the colon. So, you know, how do you not absorb that? Honestly, you know, so I mean, this is the this is a fact of life, right? And so if that isn't eliminated consistently, or if you're not eliminating consistently, then you're reabsorbing all of that. Well, depending on who you talk to, anywhere from 55 to 80 percent of all of the lymphatic tissue in the human body surrounds the gut in the digestive system. If the digestive system is toxic and it's leaking those toxins into the bloodstream, that lymphatic system that surrounds the digestive tract is like the first line of defense to try to catch that literal crap coming in, right? Okay, and what happens is that portion, which is anywhere from 55 to 80 percent of all of the lymphatic tissue in the body gets chalk full of crap. When that happens, none of the rest of the lymphatic system can drain very well because it's it's a it's a closed system and it has to all of it has to drain or none of it drains, right? And so now where does it drain too though?

SPEAKER_04

Explain explain the whole thing.

SPEAKER_03

Well, yeah, yeah. Here's so it drains back into the bloodstream. Because there's no pump. There's no pump. Okay, so all of that waste then goes back into the bloodstream and has to be reprocessed through the liver. Right. And then anything the liver doesn't catch, the kidneys have to pick up the slack for. And so there's a if all of this gets messed up, one of the ways the body will try to alleviate pressure on particularly the kidneys in the liver, is it'll start releasing toxins from the lymphatic system up through the different layers of the skin. And as those toxins leave the lymphatic vessels and go up through the layers of skin, they irritate. They're toxic, so they irritate the skin, right? This brings on hives, psoriasis, eczema, acne, all of that. All of that. And you can't actually fix any of it until you clean out the gut. Amen. You know, and the the the Heron Herring's law of cure says that the body heals from the top down and from the center out. And from a martial arts standpoint, your center of your body is your belly button. And guess what's right behind your belly button? Your colon. Your colon's right behind your belly button. Okay, and so it has to start there and work its way out. And so detox. Years ago, back I first started using it in about 2000. I've done a lot of videos on it, and then different companies have kind of picked up my my diagram that I use. But I teach that the body drains like a funnel. And you don't unplug a funnel from the top, you unplug it from the bottom, right? So if if it's not flowing, if things aren't flowing through that funnel, if that funnel isn't draining well, it's because something's plugged up in the bottom of the funnel. And you gotta clean that out in order for the the top at the stuff at the top to drain through properly, right? And the body literally drains like a funnel, and all the bulk's supposed to come out the bottom. That's right.

SPEAKER_05

And it should be coming out after you eat. It should be as regular as clockwork.

SPEAKER_03

That's what I was trying to explain to the the big fella I I treated, you know. Yeah. You know, if you're eating 21 times a week, then you should be eliminating 21 times. 21 times a week. Yeah. It's it's uh how are babies? Babies have you know they're born with perfect digestion, right? Right. They should be at least. They're not all of them are, but they this should be, and they eat and they poop. They eat and they poop. That's that's the first thing normal.

SPEAKER_05

The first thing we're taught as parents was to ru massage in that you shape. And I had a s I would have I'd say, I love you, and I'd my baby's belly. I did that every night. I just, you know, it was just a great little time with my babies.

SPEAKER_07

Right.

SPEAKER_05

And you know, because if they got plugged up, we were all freaking out. What do we do? What do we do?

SPEAKER_07

What do we do? Sure, sure.

SPEAKER_05

And but when we get adults, we kind of like forget that innate experience. Right. And we just think, no big deal. But I got a picture on the wall down here, doc. That the this guy had a his colon was about 16 inches in diameter. Wow. And they took it out. Yeah. Yeah. And I've had this picture on the wall for quite a while. And we had a client come through and and his wife works in a surgery here in Boise. Dave, we just took one out just like this in the day. She had a picture she sent me of that. And just, I mean, it's huge. I mean, it probably had a hundred pounds of poop in it.

SPEAKER_03

Right, right. So I give you a couple of statistics, you know, just anatomical facts, okay? Your colon is a four-inch round tube, as long as it's not swollen or or expanded. Right. Okay. It, you know, in no most people, it doesn't start to tear till it expands four times that diameter. Isn't that amazing? It's only an eighth inch, right? Doc? Yeah. It's yeah, it's not right. It's like an amazing, it's like a balloon. Exactly, like a balloon. Exactly. Now, here's the thing. Your colon is as long as you are tall. Fascinating. Okay. So think about a four-inch round tube as long as you are tall. How much stuff could you pack in there? A lot of stuff. A lot of stuff. Now, if it the bigger that diameter, okay, you it's exponential the amount that you could pack in there. And not to forget, Mr. Small Intestine. Right. Right. Now, here's the small intestine. They that's about tooth, two and a half times as long as you are tall. And it's only about an inch round, and it doesn't expand very well. It's muscular. It's more, it's denser, right? And so it it only expands about an inch and a half. Okay, so people with SIBO get those, the, you know, the fermenting bacteria from the colon that migrate up north into the small intestine because they ran out of they actually run out of real estate down in the colon, is what happens. And so they move up north into the uh small intestine and they start fermenting things like they're supposed to down in the colon, only up in the small intestine. There's no space to do that. And it comes becomes really people eat and then they have this terrible gas that forms in their small intestine, and they're in a lot of pain. Yes, it's it's painful, it's really nasty. And you know, so the you know, the they go to the doctor and the doctor gives them an antibiotic to knock it back, which gives them relief for a little while, but it actually increases the likelihood of it coming back. Every round of antibiotics a a patient with SIBO takes doubles the the probability of it coming back. It's it's crazy.

SPEAKER_05

And so there's give me that equation again.

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Okay, so every round of antibiotics a patient with SIBO goes on, okay, if they take a round of antibiotics, that doubles the probability of SIBO returning. Wow. Gives them great relief for a little while, but it if you if you went out and just pulled weeds in your flower garden but never planted any flowers to take up that space, what's the most logical thing to regrow in the flower box? Weeds. They're gonna come right back, right? Well, that's that's basically what they're doing is they're pulling weeds, but they're not putting anything back in. And and they're not really addressing the the real estate problem. Real estate problem is that the colon's so chock full of crap and bacteria that there's no more space for those bacteria. And so they they just start looking for more space.

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We had a gal come in, she was crying. She you thought you would have thought she was nine months pregnant. Oh my god. She had not eaten in ten days. She was crying. And someone referred her to us, we put her on the clank bed, and it was like putting the needle in a balloon.

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It went those bacteria to not they they I mean, they're perfectly fine up in the small intestine, right? Right. And so there's no reason for them to migrate migrate back, you know, south into the colon if there's no space for them to go back to the colon too, right? And so if you don't clean that out, it doesn't you're you're you're jumping on a hamster wheel, is what you're doing. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_05

Well, you know what? I think it's kind of hard to understand that how could that much poop sitting your colon, especially for those people who went and doing a colonoscopy. No, I've never had a colonoscopy. I really truly don't know how far they go up, but I've had people tell me they're clean and they come, they do they get eventually go maybe two or three weeks later to come do a colonic and they're shocked at how much stuff comes out.

SPEAKER_03

Oh right, right, right. They with a okay, so when they do the scope, that scope, they move it around and can scrape things off the wall, you know, which is partly why one out of three ends up, you know, perforating the bowel. Remember, the bowel's like like you said, it's kind of like a balloon. You put this hard cable up in there and you push too hard on that wall, you poke a hole in it. Okay, and they they do that very f very commonly. Well, I didn't know it's so common. I didn't know it's one out of three is the statistic. Yeah, it's pretty common. And so they uh what they and the reason for that is they're doing this scraping the stuff off the wall so that they can get a good view of the mucous membrane there. And so that's yeah, I don't typically recommend people doing colon doing uh the colonoscopy. Thank you. I got too many colon words on here.

SPEAKER_05

Well now you got the people now for they don't understand this, but this ties into everything you've been saying. The polyps, the tumors, these little I call them, I call them waste buckets. Sure, sure, right? Will you explain what's happened there?

SPEAKER_03

Well, again, remember your digestive tract is all of the digestive tract, from your lips to your rear end, okay, is all designed to absorb. Okay. And if there's a lot of toxic material for it to absorb, sometimes the body will grow a polyp or a tumor or something like that to wall off those toxins to keep it from going elsewhere throughout the rest of the body. And that's kind of my my that's the traditional naturopathic concept for tumors and polyps in the colon.

SPEAKER_05

So as you know, you can take a wire up there as uh in the procedure of colonoscopy and just yank it out. Right. Right. But what's the what's the downside to that?

SPEAKER_03

That didn't so that that goes back to here's my how I explained this to patients. Let's say, let's say you have a 15-year-old boy, right? He's in high school, he's not the star kid on the football team. He may not even made it to the football team, you know what I mean? And and he's getting bullied. He's getting bullied at school. There's they're pushing him around, they're giving him all kinds of trouble. His grades start to drop, he's acting out at home, he's not not himself, right? And he misbehaves and you ground him. Well, okay, that grounds him, contains him at the time, but it doesn't actually fix any of the problems, right? And so he's not grounded anymore, and all the whole time he was grounded, he was a real butthead. And then he's not grounded, he goes right back to doing everything he was doing before, right? And it's not until you fix why that you can change what. Same concept here, right? And so just like until you resolve the why the boy's acting the way he's acting, the activity is not gonna change. Okay, he's we gotta remove that stressor that's triggering him to act this way, right? Well, the same thing with your body. If if you if you have polyps or tumors growing in your colon and all they go in and do is pull those out, well, why did they show up there to begin with? If you don't address that, that's only a matter of time before they're gonna come back. Many times. And exactly. How often you you know it it happens all the time. And and so that comes back to in the on a cellular level, the two primary f things that happen on cellular metabolism is one, nutrition, nutrition, nutrition, nutrition. Your cells have to have nutrients. If they don't have nutrients, what they do is they start grabbing toxic materials that are similar to the nutrients, and they'll start incorporating like mercury where zinc or selenium should have gone, right? Or they'll incorporate lead where phosphorus or calcium should have gone, right? Or aluminum in place of magnesium. Okay, this starts to happen, and that poisons the cell, okay, which brings us to the second thing that goes on, the biggest metabolic process that goes on in the cell is the detoxing of the cell, cleaning up. So cells produce byproducts that have to get cleaned out. They're also exposed to toxins that have to get cleaned out. And it's this is a two sides to this coin or two sides, two edges to this sword. Okay, so on one side you got nutrition, and you gotta have almost an a surplus of nutrition in order for the cells to have everything they need. Okay, that's that's on one hand. And on the other side, without that nutrition, the mechanisms in the cell that clean the cell don't work. And so if the cells missing nuts and bolts, the machinery doesn't operate, right? Right. And my my favorite analogy is let's say we go out to your car, we, you know, let's say you're on the standard American diet. So 72% of what you're consuming isn't even food. Right. It's petrochemical byproducts, right? Yeah, they don't they don't call it plastic, but it's basically plastic, okay? And 72% of the the pop tarts and the the breakfast cereals and the the the you know whatever helper for this, that, whatever, you know, all of this stuff, it's 72% keep petrochemical byproducts. So let's say we you're 72% deficient in nutrients, okay. Well, to put that in perspective for you, how that's affecting you on a cellular level is let's go out to your car and randomly remove 72% of the nuts and bolts and see how well your car works. Exactly. You know, you know, it's not gonna work. It it if it does turn on, is something's gonna break. Something's gonna break down, right? And look around in society. That's happening right before our eyes. People breaking down left and right. And it's yes, it's part it's the the inflammatory effect of toxicity is what's really fanning the flames of inflammation in their bodies. But the reason the toxicity is impacting them so terribly is because they don't have enough nutrients in their system for their body to even function properly. And so it's a it's horse and cart, egg and chicken type deal, you know, and it's it's cyclic. You can't fix one unless you fix the other.

SPEAKER_05

Well, you and I are in southern Idaho, and I've spoken a lot about the farm bill going through, the precision ag bill, which is putting more EMFs, but I'm sure you're seeing the same pattern I'm seeing. Absolutely. The sickest people are living out in Elba, West Caldwell, Dampa, they're getting sprayed on a, and they don't even know it. Middleton, Star, you guys are in Emma, you're getting hammered by the glyphosate, the astrazine, the paraclate, all these things that they're using. It is toxic. Yes, and studies have shown this. So, what are you doing with your clients? What kind of nutrition are you suggesting for them? I know you've got a large line of nutritional products, and maybe you can speak to some of that, how that all ties in. There was, did did you ever meet Dr.

SPEAKER_03

Don Huber? Yes, I had him on the show way back.

SPEAKER_05

Okay, 27th episode. Yeah, awesome guy.

SPEAKER_03

He he was awesome. The doctor who was caring for his wife, she had had cancer, and the doctor that was caring for her passed away, and his nurse came to work for me, and so she got Dr. Huber and his wife to come see me. And Dr. Huber was smart. He was he knew his stuff. You say was he did he die? He's he passed away now. Yeah, he has passed. How long ago? I know what a I I'm thinking two, three years ago. I get it. I'm so lucky to have interviewed him. Yeah, absolutely. He was that was a huge loss. People don't have any idea what we lost there. He was amazing. He worked for the military for 40 years researching how to weaponize food and water. My word. Yeah. So he knew everything about toxins, everything that they're spraying us. He knew all about all of it. And what turned him around was the fact that he would come home and so he'd take his lab coat off after working in the lab, right? He'd come home, but some of that chemical residue would end up on his clothes. Yeah. And his wife did the laundry. And it ended up contributing. It's what caused her cancer. And so when he finally, you know, knowing what he knew, as soon as she was as soon as tumors started showing up, he started doing toxin tests on her and started finding all these things that he worked with in the lab for the last 40 years. And he put two and two together while he was doing a lot of IV chelation to try to remove some of the toxins and stuff, and it was kind of working, but she it it was really hard on her. And so I have this would have been 2013, 14, probably.

SPEAKER_05

He did a run through the state about 2017, 18. He went to all these different small towns and gave presentations on glyphosate. And I remember that because I was just getting involved in politics. Right. And and he spoke, and then I got a hold of him when I started my show in 2020. Yeah, he was a very early episode and it was a two-hour presentation. Amazing, amazing. And so he's talking about all the all the babies that were deformed because of the Absolutely. In in here in Idaho. And not only that, but so so okay, so we had someone come to us. They were they were diagnosed with Lyme's disease. They were seeing a very qualified naturopath in in Idaho. Sure. Somehow got referred to us. This is 2014. Right. The whole family comes. 14-year-old, mama, grandma. The family business has got passed to the son, you know, who's married to this mother, has the son, and they're sick, and they're out in the middle of American Falls. They have this beautiful place. Beautiful. Surrounded by farmland. And we came to the conclusion it wasn't really line. Yes, they had a lot of parasites, but I told him, I says, dude, you get a washing machine and a laundry in your uh where your plant is, because he sprayed chemicals on all the farm. That's the business he inherited. Spraying chemicals. I says, dude, and you change clothes, you go home with fresh clothes into that house because what you're doing is you're contaminating. And he just kind of looked at it. I said, No, this is serious stuff. And the gala referred me, she says, David, this is the sickest town I believe. Everyone here's got cancer, this and that, and Parkinson, all these things. I said, Well, think about how the wind's blowing. Think about, I mean, you're right there off the Snake River, all these farms and all the stuff they're applying. I said, It doesn't really surprise me, but right, right.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, you remember when we were kids, you could go, you know, the the dream was to get out of town and have this, you know, nice place out in the farmland and all that, because that's they had just nice clean air. Not really.

SPEAKER_05

My mother started calling me in 1995 or six, somewhere in there, and lives in Grangeville, Idaho. She lives to the east of Grangeville, up in the mountains, but she started telling me, she says, and in what Grangeville's to the east of the majority of the campus prairie, east and south. And the wind blows, of course, west to east. And she says, Joe and so got cancer. You know, and then three months later, so-and-so got cancer. And this goes on about the 10th or 12th quarter. I says, Where all these people live, mom?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

And she goes, she starts spouting them off. I says, Well, you know, it hit me like a lightning bolt one day down the road. I says, Well, think about it. What's happening out there in the prairie? She goes, I don't know. I says, Well, you got the chemical company, McGregor's, and what are they doing every year? They're spraying those fields. And my uncle, he would tell those farmers what kind of chemicals to put on their for their crops, right? I mean, he had it memorized. But everybody, how do you get these people sick? I they they heard about me, they started coming down, and one day I looked at him, I says, This gal had severe head problems, lots of migraines, very, very sick, and kid had some health problems. And I says, Well, where do you live? He says, Well, you know where I live. I says, Yeah, what's around you? You know, 12,000 acres? Yeah. And I says, Yeah, your problem is I detox, but you need to move. Move up in the mountains, right? Go down to the farm when you need to farm and all out.

SPEAKER_03

They do that. Yep, everything clears up. Right. So Dr. Huber, you know, brings his wife to me. I start to work with them. We continue the treatments that they were doing with the other doctor, and I suggest that they start, you know. So since the mid-90s, I've been researching fulvic and humic acids. And that's really been one of the hubs of research for me. Right. And so I I suggest that we put her on these fulvic and humic acid supplements to help pull the toxins out of her system. And he says, Doc, you're full of He had some really explicit language there. And I said, Well, well, okay. I said, Well, hear me out. I you know, you're the scientist, I'm the doctor, you I I'll give you the products. You take them, you test them, you you tell me whether I'm full of crap or not. I I would actually love you to tell me whether I'm full of crap or not. Because if I'm full of crap, I want to change to whatever I need to change to. If not, maybe you should listen. And he's like, Okay, deal. So I give him a bunch of our products, and he goes and has some people that he's working with, and they they're loaded with you know everything that we're talking about, and puts them on our products, and he says it was like clockwork within six to twelve weeks. All of this stuff was it it wasn't coming out of their system anymore, it was gone. And he's like, Okay, he says, Well, I'm full of them. And so we we started her on these these humiconfolic acid supplements, and man, she had a massive turnaround. Real quick, it was again probably about three to six months. She was almost back to normal. Wow. And she lived for another everyone been talking to Dr.

SPEAKER_05

Daniel Newsum, drnewsum.com. You can find his products, his office, and he's got classes that you can join and attend online. You can check it all at drnewsum.com. We'll be back in a moment. I love watching miracles happen. I especially love watching them happen in you. You have the ability to heal anything. We've proven it over and over and over again. We love to show you how you can heal your own body naturally. Here's what a few of our clients have shared with us.

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Hey, my name is Lisa, and I came to Living Waters. I was diagnosed with cancer nine and a half years ago and have done my best to rid myself of it. Have been through chemotherapy, surgeries, many, many, many, and also done some natural path in other ways, but I didn't get the gut clean first. And I wish I would have known what I know now. Getting the gut clean is what really helps. Plus, here at Living Waters, they do more than just colon hydrotherapy. They teach you about emotions, trapped emotions. And in going through that process, I uh have one tumor that I felt go smaller and working its way out. And just the things that I saw coming out, parasites is the main problem of every disease. And boy, what I saw coming out was amazing. I will be a forever doer of this and following up with other liver cleanses. My liver cleanse was amazing too. If you were on the fence, I was fearful, false expectations appearing real. And this is easy peasy, but it's a life work as well. Dealing with all your emotions and feelings and getting together with yourself, I guess is the way. You know, we have false tapes that talk to us, old tapes, and we gotta erase those and get them out. And so I definitely recommend getting your gut clean before you do anything else. Thank you, Living Waters.

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Hi, my name is John. I came to Living Waters because uh my body took some big hits after some surgeries and multiple rounds of antibiotics. I had some uh stool tests and blood tests done and uh H. pylori, parasite, some bad bacteria in my gut, and a systemic candida infection ruined my life, and I needed to be rescued on a deeper level. So I came to Living Waters, and it turns out it's more than a colon cleanse.

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SPEAKER_03

Gosh, I got I want to say five or six years. Incredible. And she was on desk doorstep when we started. They weren't spring chickens, you know what I mean? She was in her late 70s.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, I was gonna say when I interviewed Don, I think he was nearly 78 or nine or something. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Sure, yeah, sure, sure, sure. She was about like about that age when I started working with her, and and so she, you know, she did really well. And so he he started researching all of my products. And it was my product line that he was talking about in all his presentations when he was talking about the Humex and Fulvix and how they would pull glyphosate out of the system. He's the one that tested all of that. And he used my products that he was testing.

SPEAKER_05

So that's pretty cool. Now everyone's beginning aware of the microplastic issue.

SPEAKER_03

Right. Microplastics, there it helps. It helps. There's I actually have been working on a formula for this in it works too well. So your connective tissues.

SPEAKER_05

Right, yes. Yeah, what why don't we explain the big picture of fascia?

SPEAKER_03

So fascia is the fabric of your tissues. Okay, so your heart is heart cells in a fascia or connective tissue fabric. Okay, your liver is liver cells in a fascial connective tissue matrix. Your bones are mineral, it's mineralized fascia is what bones are. And so the the plastics will get they can get woven into or integrated into the uh the the connective tissue in your system. Well, if you in what we found with my formula is it it it's just too effective at at dissolving those and pulling them out, and literally in the detox, you'll have almost everyone that myself included, everyone that took this formula felt like somebody was unzipping something inside your your muscles or your joint like a zipper. You know what I'm saying? It was painful, it would hurt. But the in in seven days in a total toxin test where we're testing 300 different toxic materials, including plastics and you know, microplastics and microplastic byproducts, we would have a 700% increase in the excretion of all all microplastic byproducts. Microplastics and their byproducts. Wow. So there's there is a test.

SPEAKER_05

Is it a urine test?

SPEAKER_03

What's it's a urine test, yes. Uh-huh. It's from I think Vibrant America is the lab that that does that test. And so there, yes, there are things in its my my formula is a fulvic acid-based herbal formula, but I haven't perfected it yet. It's it's it it works, but it's the the detox effect is is pretty rough.

SPEAKER_05

And so I'm telling me, okay, where does fulvic explain it? Where does it come from? Is this about is this big mine? You mine this problem?

SPEAKER_03

Yes, I'm gonna tell you from my belief system standpoint how this was all made. I believe that in Noah's flood from the Bible, I believe that the the fountains of the deep broke open, and that meant both underground aquifers as well as volcanoes. Okay, and as that happened, massive amounts of water came up out of the ground. It created massive tsunamis, and the layers of sediment that we see everywhere is very uniform all across the planet, were laid down by tsunami after tsunami that circumvented the globe. It's you know, they just they covered everything. And there are layers of we have like two miles worth of sediment that was laid down during the first 180 to 200 days of the flood. Because it only rained for 40 days and 40 nights. They were on the arc 370 days.

SPEAKER_06

Right.

SPEAKER_03

And so in those, it wasn't until the winds started blowing and the the water started to recede, which is like the last hundred days of the flood, that the tsunamis actually settled down. And at that point, you had water moving away from the centers of each of the continents and pretty much eroded, you had sheet erosion of all across the globe. It's everywhere. You can see it everywhere. Well, in that tsunami process and the deposition of sediment, if you now another keynote as you go around the world, there is what they call the great unconformity. And there is bedrock where all of that sediment started. And there was there is a place, and sometimes because of how it was changed and how the planing of the water moving off the surface, it you know, eroded some of the sediment and exposed this. There are places around the world where you can see where the sediment started being deposited, right? That is the original world, in my opinion. That's that was God's initial creation, and so all the sediment that we see was deposited in Noah's flood. In those depositions, in all that depositing of sediment, you had all kinds of organic matter. So the earth, biblically, in the a different, if you look at other extra biblical books that have been included in the canon in the past but aren't in the Catholic canon as present, they say that the earth originally was one part sea and seven parts dry land, and the dry land was covered in vegetation. Well, that's massive. Because w today the earth is 70% covered in ocean. You know, there's only 30% of the planet is dry land. And if it was if you you flip that 4,500 years ago, all of that vegetation got deposited in layers of sediment, right? Yeah. And so deep layers were laid down and got compressed under the the heavier layers of rock and water and soil and all this, and that got compressed into petroleum. Now, above that, in the slightly higher layers, the same type of sediment got compressed and everything and got turned into coal. Well, the last stuff to be deposited on the very top got turned into what's called humic shale. And that shale deposit is where the process of what's called humification has happened. And humification is basically it's it's like composting just over thousands of years, if you will. Right. Okay. So so let's say you had a whole semi-truck load of compost, right? And you take that through the composting process for two years, three years, maybe. It's gonna give you at absolute most, it's gonna give you a small pickup truck load of compost, right? Because all of that that biomass is gonna concentrate down into the black soil, right? That's what happened with all of that that biomass after the flood. This is my opinion, okay? And all that was up close to the surface had enough oxygen that the microbes in the soil were able to then concentrate all of that biomass down into, you know, in essence, 4,000 year old compost. Okay, and what happens in that composting process, you take this massive amount of biomass or organic material as it as it decomposes, it concentrates the nutrients. Okay, so that that pickup truck, you know, bed full of you know potting soil that you end up with after the you know, the whole semi-truck load of compost got concentrated, right? As it decomposed, has all the nutrition of everything that was in that original biomass or that you know biologic material uh that you started to compost. Well, if you take that out over time, humic shale has the highest amount of man, polyphenols, minerals, vitamins, flavonoids, all of your antioxidants and raw materials you need for healthy cells is super concentrated in that humic shale. And the the very most concentrated component of that is fic acid. It has the high it's like the highest concentrate of all nutrients and everything is the fic acid component of that. And so what I've found over the years, I've worked with different lots of different biochemists and working on this product and that product, this process, that process of how to, you know, because you you end up in these shale deposits, you have all the you have all of the periodic table, including the bad guys. You know what I mean? So we have they have to go through different processes and how to concentrate the the humic acids and things like that, but delete and pull out the heavy metals and things like that. And so that's that's what I've worked with with these guys in we have products that have I have a humic acid product that is pure humic acid. It it doesn't have that is that the uh spray? It's the black brew, it's the powder.

SPEAKER_05

Okay.

SPEAKER_03

And then I have a a pure fic acid product that's a spray, uh, and that's just concentrated fic acid. It's and most companies will take and add more minerals back to their fic acid. I I don't. I would just make the extract and it so it ends up with a higher concentration of the of the fulvic acid itself. It's wonderful. It's a very simple thing.

SPEAKER_05

What's the difference in terms of absorption rate? I've been using album chelates for years. Those are great. Yeah, what's the difference between that and the the fully?

SPEAKER_03

So my spray, if you spray it in your mouth, it's not going to help your gut a whole lot because it'll absorb before it hits your throat. It's it, you know, so for when I'm using the spray for gut issues, I'll have people actually spray it in their water and drink it because that'll carry it to the stomach and get it in that way. Our spray, our folvic acid spray, you could spray it on your skin and absorb it. It'll it'll it doesn't evaporate, it it penetrates. The so the the absorption of all of that is as close to 100% as you can get. And the with the humic acid, see, humic acid, the molecule of humic acid is pretty big, and so not much of it ever actually leaves the gut. But remember the old uh we're old enough to remember this, the peptobismol commercial where the guy's drinking the paint stuff and it's coating his throat and his stomach. Remember that? That's what humic acid does. When you drink it, it coats the gut, and so it it creates a protective layer. Interesting. So, like if somebody with reflux or somebody with leaky gut or you know, colitis or those types of things, it's uh it's like a healing salve for the gut wall. It's amazing stuff. That then becomes a it's it's like superpowered prebiotic, if you will. And so the story I tell is if you if you consume humic acid for a while before you start taking your probiotics, the humic acid is it'll, you know, let's say we uh this is my story and my analogy is let's say we decided we're gonna move to the Amazon and you know, we're gonna live out in the bush. Well, if we contract a a local tribe to go and at least kind of rough in some huts and stuff for us, that way when we get there, we have at least a place to stay. We can sure we we have a place to land, you know what I mean? That's what humic acid does with your gut wall for the probiotics that you take. Drastically enhances the the benefits and effects of of the probiotics. It's amazing stuff. Then that was what Dr. Huber was studying when it comes to contaminants in water and how to get contaminants that are in the water that we are we end up absorbing or end up consuming, how to get those contaminants out of the gut. One of the things that he documented was that you know, atrazine and glyphosate and 2,4D are all part of their patent, is they are antibiotics. Okay. Wow. And so when those get into the system, they go down in your gut, they stay in your gut. There's there's no food that you can eat that will remove them. Okay, so they stay in there. They actually have to be pulled out of the tissue and removed, right? And so what he he used my humic acid powder and studied, did studies and found that that would get into those the villi and things in the gut and pull the the glyphosate and these other you know these other toxins out of our gut. And that in doing that, that allowed all the probiotics to take root and grow back because there wasn't an antibiotic sitting there killing them every day, you know, all day long.

SPEAKER_05

Right. You know, we're going along on his interview, and and he says, and it causes gender dysphoria. And he keeps going on and talking and go, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Back up. Hold on. I mean it causes gender dysphoria. And of course, this is 2021, I think it was. Right, right. And we've got all the DEI transgender blah, blah, blah going on. I'm like, oh my God, this makes so much sense. 1996, they begin spraying glyphosate. That whole generation has grown up on all the the the prisons and the schools have the same food. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely terrible.

SPEAKER_03

And what's happened to these kids? Right, right. These poor kids. And it's they're not trans, they're confused. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Trevor Burrus, Jr.: And then give us some suggestion and then manipulate the media every day. You're trans. You have the right to change your body if you want to. We don't know what gender you are. You can choose it later in life.

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Right.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Don't don't uh you know, they don't tell you, well, if you if you decide to come back, there's no coming back. Yeah, they don't have to disclose that. Hey, you take off your life. Yeah. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. Right, right. So I was your penis son, but now you're something else for life. Right.

SPEAKER_03

Those people should all be put. How horrible. I mean, the dismemberment of our children.

SPEAKER_05

That's every person that did that should go to jail. Absolutely. That's true. Poor chip. Sick. Absolutely. I'll stop because that was Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

No, I'm I'm with you. Every aspect of wrong. And so Well, they normalized it. The media normalized it. Right.

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Right.

SPEAKER_03

Which is also every aspect of wrong.

SPEAKER_05

And then, of course, they've been doing normalizing for years. Now we're waking up because we have social media and hanging out in the right circles, you're going to have a different perspective, and you get to argue about it at least.

SPEAKER_03

Right, right. So the The Frog Whisperer, that's a good documentary to look up. Frog Mr.

SPEAKER_05

Is that Astrazine? Is this the Astrazine story? I've told that many times.

SPEAKER_03

Go ahead and share this story. It's a great story. So atrazine has it it has a gender swapping effect. And so in in frogs, it would cause the girls to become boys and the boys to become girls, but the their anatomy didn't actually change that much. Okay. So the boys would end up getting pregnant, but they would have the they the eggs would grow in their testicles and they would die in birth because their testicles would rupture open as the babies were born. This is frogs. This is frogs. Yes. Right. The female frogs that would get pregnant would also have like a rupturing effect and would die in delivery of the.

SPEAKER_05

And what people don't understand is who owns this product now? Chem China. Right. And three years ago, Chem China and Bear tried to get passed in the legislature to have immunity from liability. Fortunately, we have enough conservatives that stopped it only by three votes. They brought it back. They got to bring their bill two times in that session, which never happened. My gosh. They allowed them to bring the bill because the corrupt politicians in the state of Idaho allowed it because they're all from the farming community. And they believe that, oh my God, if we don't have this stuff, we're all going to die because we can't grow food. And then they brought the next year and they brought this year and it didn't even get a hearing at all. Wow. Fortunately, hopefully we can keep it that way, but they're trying to get it passed, as you know, at the national level. At the national level. To just poison us outright. I mean, there's so many things coming at us right now. I mean, I've been working on EMF bills, HR 2289. We got that pulled after poof, some horrendous phone calls with Representative Vulture. But now we got like eight more bills, and ones that's really scaring the hell out of me. I was just on a call last week, is the satellite. They've got a bill now where they could literally just track every part of you wherever you go. The amount of radiation that will come down upon the earth is stagnant. Yes. I don't know how we will survive that event.

SPEAKER_03

Let me share this with you. I I was part of a soil and water remediation crew when Fukushima happened over in Japan, the tsunami and all that. We ended up long ago.

SPEAKER_05

That was 2011, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_03

12. Yeah, 11, 12, right in there. We were, I think it was 12 that we were doing our research, and we it came down 13. We were we ended up we we're second place in the runnings for the contract to clean up Fukushima. But you don't get there unless you have a you have to have a science that's provable and reproducible in not just in the lab but also in the field to even be considered. You know, I mean this is this was a this is a government contract. This is a this is local store deal. This was a full-on the we were in we were second in the runnings for gov Japanese government contract to clean up that mess. We had come up with a solution for both the reactor, the water, the soil, and the the plants. And uh they wanted a solution for the people but couldn't get that. And so on the on the side, we got we ended up with a a contract to supply some ingredients to the the soft drink industry in Japan. And the soft drink industry started infusing their because Japanese drink, they don't drink water, they drink sodas. It's just the the sodas or alcohol is what they drink, right? And so what they did is they started to infuse the the soft drinks with the solution that we had come up with. And one of the things, one of the places we that we did uh on field test was down in Nevada where they had done some of the nuclear testing, right? We went out in the field where you know we had to wear suits and well have a Geiger counter on. We're pulling up in the trucks and the Geiger counters you know, going off the chart, right? And so we get out there and we spray this land with our solution, and we sprayed it once. We out in the middle of the desert, we planted heirloom alfalfa seeds, which shouldn't grow, right? In especially on radioactive soil. Definitely shouldn't grow. We we sprayed the the area two more times in the course of three months. We watered the field one time every other day, not twice a day like you normally do for alfalfa, right? We had a crop within three months, three, four months, but it was horrifically radioactive. I mean, it was we're like, now how do we get rid of this, you know? And uh so we had to do some things to we treated it and we had to have it disposed of, you know, all that. And we alpha the glow. Yeah, right. We had an alfalfa glow, no kidding. We repeated the process and it was we did exactly the same thing. About four months after that, we had a crop of alfalfa. The it had to do with like the mineral content and the protein content of it. It had to be at a like 35%, 40% to be good feed grade alfalfa. We were almost 90%. It was it was over double the the concentration of nutrition in the alfalfa. It was it was too hot to give to cattle. They'd have to cut it, you know, to give it to cattle because it was had just too high nutrient content and there was no radioactivity growing on the second growing, right? So the first the first growing would you say was absorbing it? Was it kind of absorbed it? It pulled it up out of the soil and whatnot. And then our the the humic and folvic acid solution that we were using was neutralizing the radio radioactivity in the soil itself. So we had a we had a whole whole line of things that we were gonna use. We had a way of to be able to spray the solution into the read the reactor and all that kind of stuff. It was pretty cool.

SPEAKER_05

Did they do it? Did they take it?

SPEAKER_03

They didn't do it. No, no. There was a company out of Tokyo, they got the contract. Has it been effective at what they're doing? No, it's been a mess. Now, the effect, right? So they had these machines and they only treated water. We treated water, soil, plants, crops, everything. And then we were that was so effective. They wanted the government implemented this inclusion of our fulvacumic acid material in the soft drinks for the entire population, the whole country. Okay. And that's I think that I'm not part of that group anymore, but I think that contract is is is coming close to the end. But they they for years have been infusing.

SPEAKER_05

And what are they they notice? Have they did you get any feedback on what they're noticing?

SPEAKER_03

Well, there has been no increase in cancer, no increase in, you know, the people have been safe.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. The chlorella we were buying back then, we were buying from it was source was in Japan, in south of Japan. And we I quickly moved to uh a source in Korea, someplace else at the time. Chlorilla is a chlorella is a fascinating story. It's excellent. Yeah, that's phenomenal. I did a show on that years ago on the history of chlorella, fascinating story.

SPEAKER_03

Absolutely. Good stuff. And especially if you get the cracked cell, you get access, you can easily absorb all of the nutrients in there, and you have everything you need for healthy cells right there. Yeah, it's amazing stuff. Yeah. Chlorella, spirulina. A lot of the other algae have other things. They're not, they're good mineral supplements a lot of times. Uh the main thing from algae, though, is the fucoidin. Fucoidin is a mucopolysaccharide. So it's a short-chain sugar that is massively immunoregulatory. It it's great. They use it over there. They use it for cancer, they use it for gosh, I mean, allergies, cancer, asthma, you know, anything uh inflammatory in the brown algae from what is it? Uh-da. Okinawa is the algae that they eat in Japan. That's like the main algae. And it's actually pretty high in the Foucoidon.

SPEAKER_05

So it's that's I just wondered if the the nuclear stuff floated down to that area. I didn't know.

SPEAKER_03

Here's yeah, well, here's what happened. The the machines that the the Tokyo based company came up with would concentrate all the radioactive isotopes out of the water in into these three by five bricks. And so they had all these radioactive material in these three by five bricks. They put them in these specially designed garbage bags and then put them on barges out in the ocean. And the barges have all capsized at this point, and all of that material went to the bottom of the ocean.

SPEAKER_05

Nothing to see here.

SPEAKER_03

Our technology would have Let's have some sushi. Right. Let's have some sushi. We won't need to light because we'll uh we'll be glowing.

SPEAKER_05

So yeah, you're glowing now. Oh my goodness, what are you eating? Very special supplement from the bottom of the sea. Great fish. Right. I like mine raw. Yeah. My goodness. So DRnewsum.com. Now, what's interesting about your site, you got a lot of stuff here. You've got you can join your program, you've got a class, you've got a articles here.

SPEAKER_03

For my patients, about three years ago, I finally got fed up. I I've been in practice for 30 years. So I about three years ago, I had gotten fed up with I yeah, I see a patient in I got I spend about forty five minutes with patients. I'm with them for Me too. You know, it's for a visit with a doctor. That's a pretty long visit, you know what I mean? And in so I I spent nine visits at a traditional doctor. Right, right. Exactly. Exactly, exactly. And so I have a very I spent a lot of time with patients. In I got so tired at that point of trying to teach patients everything they needed to know about whatever they were dealing with in the appointment time that we had and running out of time. I never could actually finish what I was trying to tell you.

SPEAKER_05

Exactly.

SPEAKER_03

It's all brand new. It's absolutely exactly. And so I'm like, I gotta do something else. And so I I decided three years ago, I decided I'm gonna do a weekly master class for my patients, and I'm gonna cover all these different subjects that they need to know about and all this different stuff that they that I need to teach them, but I don't have time to. Right. And so we started doing these master classes. So I got about 150 of them that are in a library, right? And I cover everything from detox to all aspects of nutrition. We did a I did a whole series on trauma release therapy. I did uh series on SIBO, on arthritis, on Hashimoto's thyroiditis. I did one on IBS, you know. And so we do this series of classes where I cover in uh in matter of fact, one of the it's actually two of the universities I teach for are pushing me to let their let them use my material there in their classes. Like, well, we have to work on a licensing agreement.

SPEAKER_05

Is that your inner circle?

SPEAKER_03

That's my inner circle.

SPEAKER_05

That's the $27 a month.

SPEAKER_03

Yes. So what happened about the beginning of the year, I was like, you know what? Look at this has been it's been a game changer for my patients, is really because they have like you said, they can only re retain maybe 10% of what I tell them in in their appointment. Well, now they have access to this library, and so they can go back. Man, you know, Susie has this issue with her thyroid. Well, what did Doc say about the my thyroid? What did I need to do here? Well, she has her protocol and doesn't understand why why she needs to do ABC, right? Well, she can go to my thyroid classes and you know, hear everything she needs to know about her thyroid, you know. It's been phenomenal, just a wonderful, wonderful thing for my patients. And so beginning of the year, I was like, you know what? Look at how this is benefiting my patients. We got I can't see everybody that needs to be seen, but maybe we can open this up to the rest of the, you know, we open it to the public. So, you know, people who maybe they're not ready to be a patient, or maybe they're, you know, just searching and really want they want a source of information they can trust, you know, that kind of thing. And so we open that up, and oh my gosh, we have people just kind of beating the door down for that.

SPEAKER_05

They it's well, what you find in our in our realm, you know, in the natural healing world space, yes, versus the allopathic. Uh, the way I see it is if you're going, if you're still seeking out an allopathic, there's kind of that mindset of just give me a pill, fix me. I don't want to close my ears, I don't want to hear it, just give me something. Just just give me something. I think when I see, I know it's a good client, someone that says, tell me more. Right. And is that is that with your client? Is that that's really that's the same thing. Yeah, same sort of that. And I I always tell people, I don't want to be your guru. If you don't watch my video before you come see me, I know you're not for me. You're wasting my right. Absolutely. Because if you don't want to know, I mean, I can't, it only helps so much. Right, right. And when you get and you start having a Herxma reaction, you're gonna blame it on me because you're tossing your cookies because you're on the clinic bed, and it's very rare happens, but it does happen. Sure. It's just your body's saying, hey, let's just get rid of these toxins right now, but let's get rid of all of it. But you need to understand why that's happening so you can still trust yourself what you're doing is the right place to be.

SPEAKER_03

Right, right. And that's that's a huge part. So unfortunately, what we do isn't mainstream. Soon to be coming soon. It's in my lifetime.

SPEAKER_05

Hopefully, I see.

SPEAKER_03

Yes, I mean too.

SPEAKER_05

Me too. Well, Doc, we have a five trillion sick care bill. And we I believe truly, if we just did colonics with the nutrients, right. I think we can be down to one trillion. I really do. I I really yeah, I agree. I agree. Yeah, yeah. Get rid of the glyphosate, get rid of the we can't keep bad inputs. We gotta change the inputs. Unfortunately, RFK's there. I hope he I hope he doesn't get fired. I hope he Right, right. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_03

He's a good man. I've I've met him personally. Him and I have worked with some different legislators here and got some you know, Idaho didn't have a law that prevented CPS from taking your children away if you didn't vaccinate them. And we got that passed, you know. And so they can't. If you decide not to vaccinate your children, the CPS has nothing to say about it. They, you know, which is important. We needed as parents, we needed that kind of protection, you know. And so but I I worked with uh some of the senators, you know, and it was actually RFK's office that supplied us with all the information we needed to get that passed.

SPEAKER_05

It was just this this last year then.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Beautiful stuff. And he's a good guy. He's you know Oh, he really is.

SPEAKER_05

He's all yeah.

SPEAKER_03

He doesn't need to he could retire tomorrow and be way better off than doing what he's doing. You know, he's he's on a mission. And so I'm I'm proud to to know the guy. He's he's a good guy. Yeah. And so with you know, with what we do, it there's a lot of education that has to happen for people to really understand. You know, if I you you come to see me and I give you these herbal anti-inflammatories, some enzymes and some some vitamins, let's say, and I tell you, all right, you need to take these for the next three months. And you take them for three months, you feel better. Maybe not you're not a new man at the old address yet, you know, but you're you're feeling better. It's definitely making a difference. But toward the end of those three months, you're like, meh, you know, I'm okay. I don't need to take as many of these. Right. And then month four comes along, and you haven't you've you know kind of taken everything every two or three days, you know, and and all of a sudden it's not working anymore, quote unquote. Your symptoms are coming back, all that stuff we were helping your body overcome all of a sudden starts coming back because you're not doing the things that are keeping it away, you know. And if you don't understand why you need to do it, there's not a whole lot of motivation to do it. Right.

SPEAKER_05

You know, and so that's you ordered tests for these, or are you just muscle tests? What are you doing? Are you doing that?

SPEAKER_03

No, I do I do a lot of tests. I do a lot of tests. I have, man, I've tried muscle testing a lot, and I think it's the Irish in me that you know we we have in my dad's family, that's where the Irish comes from. Uh we we have this saying in the family that a newsum, of course, newsms talk to themselves because it's the only way they can get an expert opinion. I say that jokingly, but it it is kind of so when it comes to muscle testing, when I do muscle testing, I always end up with the result that I think I should have, you know, and so I I'm for some reason I'm not able to kind of become neutral to all of that. And so a lot of times I'll have other people muscle test, you know.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

And then and I do testing. Testing is is for me is benchmarks. Right. You know, okay, where are you right now? Where do we need to go? Okay, the testing gives us gives us a path, it gives us a good snapshot as to what needs to get, you know, what what we need to do, and then we need to test again to make sure we got there, you know. That's and I'm not a super test happy doctor.

SPEAKER_05

You know, you see more I mean with what do you see the big things today? Is it you see a higher mold count, East Candida, heavy metals, or all of them?

SPEAKER_03

I mean, is it just I th I think it's across the board. Yeah. Here's here's I have a one of the so when I first my first specialty was naturopathic toxicology. And professor, he's passed now, but my professor there, he said when you are nutritionally deficient, you become a toxin sponge. Makes a lot of sense. That was tot that there's not a truer statement. That is a absolute true statement. So what I I I define it as four, there's four primary problems that I see in all chronically ill patients. One, they're nutritionally deficient.

SPEAKER_06

Right.

SPEAKER_03

And so that that saying, anyone that's nutritionally deficient is a toxin sponge brings us to number two toxins. The environmental toxins. That's the second thing I always find. We always find the deficiencies, we always find the toxins. Next thing, and this is this might sound kind of weird, but the next thing really is unresolved emotional trauma. Yes. That is so huge. It's so huge. I believe we're created in God's image. Yeah, right. I believe God's a triune being. In that Trinity, there's the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit. All three aspects of God are equally powerful. They're equally God, right? But there's a hierarchy there. This the Son only does what the Father tells them, and the Spirit only does what the Son tells them. Okay, that's how it's laid out in the New Testament of the Bible, right? Okay, well, how does that apply to us? Well, our spirit is our spirit gives our mind all of its original thoughts. Our mind then expounds on them, turns them into ideas and thought processes and plans and dreams and all these different things. And then our mind tells our body what to do. And that's the hierarchy of our of our being, right? Our trinity. And so if your spirit's good and your mind is good, but you're you're sick all the time, there's something messing with the communication between your mind and your body. Yes. Okay. Now that could be that your body chemistry is off. Therefore, when the mind is telling the body ABC, do do you know ABC, the body says, but we have XYZ going on here, and it it doesn't, you know, so there's this mess and communication that happens if your chemistry is off. Well, if you're from an emotional trauma standpoint, if you're stuck in a traumatic event in your life, you haven't let that go and you haven't moved past that, that puts you in a permanent fight or flight feedback loop. Yes. And you can't get out of that feedback loop until you let go of that trauma.

SPEAKER_05

And you know what's interesting about that, Doc? I might have just hear a story. Is uh so we do a bunch of we g share a bunch of emotional tools here. Sure. And I had no idea. I mean, I I guess I had the ideal childhood. I didn't know that so many people growing up with kids got beat up, sexually abused. I had no idea. But I take them through a process about day six or seven, somewhere in there. And as I explained it to them, frequency in our tissues, like a radio frequency, can be changed. Yes, exactly. I just had a really cool thing happen here. A couple cool clients that one had cancer, had a body part taken out, chemo radiation, 2019, new body part out, chemo radiation, 2021, new body part out, chemo radiation. 2024 went natural, did a lot of great things, but spent $52,000 doing it, had stage four cancer, came through the process. We get done doing this little journey thing I was telling you about. She comes out of the room, she runs up behind me and says, David, David, David, David, David. No one's ever done that. What did I do? And she goes, I've been doing talk therapy 20 years. I thought I'd forgiven that guy that was doing the bad stuff from stage two on. David, no one had took me through it like you did. And I got to bring him as a young girl. And I let that go, and David, that tumor's gone. Collapsed in 10 minutes. Boom, gone. Yeah. Yeah. And I had another guy that, very quiet. It just happened. And very quiet guy. And anyway, he shared some things with me. But what he had a tumor. Everyone been talking to Dr. Daniel Newsom, drnewsum.com. You can find his products, his office, and he's got classes that you can join and attend online. You can check it all at drnewsum.com. We'll be back in a moment. I love watching miracles happen. I especially love watching them happen in you. You have the ability to heal anything. We've proven it over and over and over again. We love to show you how you can heal your own body naturally. Here's what a few of our clients have shared with us.

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Hey, my name is Lisa, and I came to Living Waters. I was diagnosed with cancer nine and a half years ago and have done my best to rid myself of it. Have been through chemotherapy, surgeries, many, many, many, and also done some natural path in other ways, but I didn't get the gut clean first. And I wish I would have known what I know now. Getting the gut clean is what really helps. Plus, here at Living Waters, they do more than just colon hydrotherapy. They teach you about emotions, trapped emotions. And in going through that process, I uh have one tumor that I felt go smaller and working its way out. And just the things that I saw coming out, parasites is the main problem of every disease. And boy, what I saw coming out was amazing. I will be a forever doer of this and following up with other liver cleanses. My liver cleanse was amazing too. If you were on the fence, I was fearful. False expectations appearing real. And this is easy peasy, but it's a life work as well. Dealing with all your emotions and feelings and getting together with yourself, I guess is the way. You know, we have false tapes that talk to us, old tapes, and we gotta erase those and get them out. And so I definitely recommend getting your gut clean before you do anything else. Thank you, Living Waters.

SPEAKER_00

Hi, my name is John. I came to Living Waters because uh my body took some big hits after some surgeries and multiple rounds of antibiotics. I had some uh stool tests and blood tests done and uh H. pylori, parasite, some bad bacteria in my gut, and a systemic candida infection ruined my life, and I needed to be rescued on a deeper level. So I came to Living Waters, and it turns out it's more than a colon cleanse.

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Right, right. Whoa. Here's prayer, but probably not the best illustration, but it it illustrates a point. This is an analogy I use. Let's say you're you're at the top of the some stairs, right? You got three other guys, you push one guy down the stairs, right? Yeah, he hits, you know, hits the bottom of the stairs, jumps up, curses, swears, and then walks away. Yeah. He's okay. You know, he's he's over it, right? Next guy, he falls down the stairs, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam. He jumps up and he just about runs back up the stairs. I'm gonna clean your clock, you know. He but he decides not to, and he just lets it go and he walks away, right? Third guy doesn't even, you know, he bounces the same exact bounce that the other two guys bounced down the stairs, boom, boom, boom, hits the bottom of the stairs and just lays there crying. Each one of them experienced the exact same trauma. Each one of them had a completely different response. And the one that let it go and moved past it were able to move on with their life. Yeah. And that's it. My point is, because I mean you've seen it, I've seen all the time, all the time. You got people, this, you know, like you said, this lady, she had someone molest her. Well, you have another lady that was molested too, but they didn't have the same response. Yeah. In one's still very stuck, the other one's has let it go and move past, you know what I mean? In the uh it's it's that response. And the thing about forgiveness is it's it's beyond pardon. Pardoning is releasing someone of guilt. And that's not forgiveness, really. Forgiveness is releasing yourself from prison because releasing yourself from prison. Yes. Good words. That is forgiveness. Forgiveness is releasing yourself from prison because you holding something against somebody puts you in, okay. The Bible says judge or don't judge, or you're gonna be judged. Yeah. Okay, when you hold something against somebody, you're in that judgment seat, but that puts you in the same prison that they're in. Yeah. And it puts you back in that nasty cycle. It keeps you there. And so until you let that person, you let that go, let that situation go, you and you get out of that judgment seat. Yeah, you can't get out of prison. So forgiveness is letting yourself out of prison. It's not letting the other person off the hook. It's very different. Those are wise words. Those are really wise words. That's what I that's what I teach.

SPEAKER_05

So guys, you want to learn this, you got to go to DR Newsum, N-U-Z-U-M, drnewsum.com and sign up for his inner circle, $97 a month. You're gonna get one heck of an education. You got a whole, I'm gonna guess you have a whole library there you can choose from. We do we have about 200 hours worth of video in the library there.

SPEAKER_03

200 hours, that's like uh that's a whole college course. A whole college course, exactly. And we have another year's worth already planned out. Wow. So it's every week, so 48 weeks a year, we have I do a master class. Do you do like a l live each week or do you just live every week and we record it? Okay, and how long does about an hour and a half. Which night do I do every Wednesday at one o'clock?

SPEAKER_05

Every Wednesday at one o'clock, I'm live for an hour and a half, and then they can of course go in and they miss it. It's gonna be recorded. It's recorded. They have access to it, your products online. And you do like over the internet.

SPEAKER_03

Do you do like Yes, I do a lot of telemedicine. Yeah. I'm in process. Next year I'm gonna be open in a local clinic as well. But in the meantime, I with COVID, I ended up man, I had all the overhead of a clinic and everything. Yeah, we well, because I was seeing one patient a week in person. Okay. I had all you know, had nurse, had this, had that, you know, all this overhead. And everybody wanted to be seen on Zoom.

SPEAKER_05

So I just changed. That's so true.

SPEAKER_03

I and so I was like, okay, I you know, I I it was do I maintain this and hope that we get out of COVID sometime in in so we we ended up shutting it down just because the overhead was so much, you know, and I literally wasn't seeing anyone in the clinic.

SPEAKER_07

Wow.

SPEAKER_03

And so I started into the the telehealth, which is really for me really crazy. As a naturopath, I have always specialized in the physical treatments, all the hands-on treatments and have a huge background in acupuncture and oriental medicine and indigenous medicine, where we're a lot of hands-on in-person type stuff, and I've had to really modify a lot of that.

SPEAKER_05

You know, a lot of people have. I mean, there's it's amazing to me. I get reached, I feel a lot of people reach out to me on my show. It's interesting how many people are just you know working from their home and class, they have some program, but it's really changed a lot.

SPEAKER_03

Landscape has really changed a lot.

SPEAKER_05

You were you appeared on are you still appearing on the series The Truth About Cancer?

SPEAKER_03

Yes. They've retired from the cancer coverage. They've actually gone into more exposing political poo-poo with the Bullingers, Ty Bullinger, Ty Charlene Bollinger. I was in all of their documentaries, and then I've been in Jonathan Otto filmed their original documentary. I think maybe the first two. And I met him back then, and then he they got a different film crew and went with a different producer, and he started doing his own documentaries, and so I've been on all of his documentary. I don't even know how my staff say I've been on over 60 documentaries at this point. Well, with auto or with with all the different people that have been on over the years. And the the thing the everyone likes how I explain things. That's what it boils down to. That's what they like. And I think if you really know your your materials, you can teach it to a little child. Right.

SPEAKER_05

You know, I always say no sixteen-syllable words. Yeah, no, no, you know, but then but you know, I have people come in, they start telling me, Well, I got this, and it's like a you know, four to six syllable words. I got this, and I'm going, yeah, yeah. You know, is there people just sitting in a deep dark basement someplace thinking like they've got Scrabble games out and they're sitting there trying to make thicker out words that will scare the hell out of you? Right. So we can and then, hey, can we get some kind of a drug to match this symptom? Right. And this label. I'm sure they're gonna have a funnel. We've got a whole funnel of things that are gonna happen.

SPEAKER_03

When you really look at it, you know, you get into like even like well, how they name drugs and then how they name even plants, you know. The yeah, how you know, you know, a scientist named something when it's absolutely goofy, you know. That there's proteins in the block in the body called globulins. Well, why? Because they look like little globs of protein. Globulin, that wasn't all that original, if you ask me.

SPEAKER_05

But no, us human beings, we're completely silly when it comes to seeing through the logic. And I think it's just all, you know, you gotta think about it. We were a very agrarian economy until about 1920, 30. Right. And really, the last generation of my book, oh, me growing up, there's just not that many farm kids left anymore, and you don't have that common sense, that logical thinking process. Just isn't there. When I said, you know, about two years ago, I got so upset and I said, you know what? I'm hiring people who've been homeschooled or farm kids. Right, right. My children are homeschooled. And I don't care how many degrees you got, I don't care where you've been, what's your w whether you got A's or not, it you guys rise to the top, in my opinion, just because you had to to survive. Exactly. Exactly.

SPEAKER_03

I come from the third largest family in the history of the United States.

SPEAKER_05

You know, I've I've heard this story telling. This is amazing.

SPEAKER_03

I uh I'm an only child. So I I normally I like if I'm speaking and I'm gonna be telling about my my family history, tell everybody, yes, I have thirty two. Two brothers and sisters. I got 23 brothers, nine sisters. We did finally buy mom and dad a TV for their room.

SPEAKER_02

Women's survival.

SPEAKER_03

Whoa. But in in reality, I'm my parents' only child. I'm an only child. And when I was seven, my parents discovered adoption. And I tell everybody evidently it must be addictive because they just kept doing it. And they adopted special needs kids and they adopted families to keep all the kids together. And so in the process of all the adoptions, they had three different family groups of five children, which is 15 children, right? Plus three other families of three. So that's you know, that's 24 children of families that they took in and and kept all the kids together. You know what I mean? They're uh my parents are amazing people. They had to be again, they're naturopathic doctors. And so instead of building a practice and all that kind of thing, they had a a whole food co-op and a like a vitamin co-op where the the the semi-trucks would come to our house and unload the semi-truck. We me and my brothers would unload the semi-truck, and then all these families would come and pick up all their goods from our house. And so they did that on the side. They did some treatments with patients and whatnot, but their main focus was on all 33 of us children. And they did so 12 of my brothers and sisters were in wheelchairs when they were adopted. And at this point, four are in wheelchairs. They're all still alive, but only four were in wheelchairs. Well, they had recoveries from virtually all of were vaccine injured, and some severely back, you know, vaccine injured to the point of you know having cerebral palsy and being wheelchair bound.

SPEAKER_05

How did the kids get the parents just couldn't handle it? What brought about them being put up for adoption? The whole family of kids.

SPEAKER_03

Right. Drug abuse, prostitution abuse, you name it.

SPEAKER_05

Your parents are saints. I mean, that had to be what a dynamic I can't imagine the dynamics. Absolutely. How do you keep a household and how do you contain it all, you know? Yeah. And you I was I was big brother.

SPEAKER_03

Yep. You're big brother.

SPEAKER_05

And so you're watching all this, you're watching your dad and mom practice. Is that kind of how you got your inspiration?

SPEAKER_03

What happened is I became the sit the assistant. And so dad did all the physical type treatments. My my dad's a naturopath and a mechanotherapist. And so he it's kind of a cross between a massage therapist and a chiropractor. Okay.

SPEAKER_06

Wow.

SPEAKER_03

And so he did all the physical type treatments, and he was big into gadgets. We had all kinds of electrical this and frequency that, all these different gadgets, you know. And then mom, my mom's a naturopath and a PhD clinical nutritionist. Wow. And so they so mom would handle kind of the nutrition side and all the herbs and vitamins and what everybody would take. Dad would get people started on these different therapy regimens. And it was my job to make sure they finished the regimen. So I was doing all the physical. I I was doing adjustments like chiropractic adjustments when I would by the time I was 10 years old. Get out of here. I was doing you know, physical therapy, all this kind of stuff. So and then you're doing that without a license. And you know, the other thing is, oh my gosh, by the time I at the same time, by the time I was 10, I had the little you remember the the old school desks that had the their metal frame that had a stool, and then there was a a desk and you opened the lid to the okay. Well, I had one of those, yeah. Right, right. So I had one of those in the pantry, right? And I had my little encapsulators. Wow. And I that's where I made all the tinctures, I made all the homeopathic pellets and all that kind of stuff. So I was doing all this stuff by the time I was 10 years old. Get out of here.

SPEAKER_05

That's amazing.

SPEAKER_03

And so I being so immersed into it by the time I went on, you know, I've I actually graduated high school at 15 years old. I was homeschooled, graduated 15 years old, went into pre-med. None of the schools would take me because I was too young. I was told by one darker complexed lady at one of the offices that I was also the wrong color. Was interesting. This back in the early 90s. They wouldn't take me. So one school set up this, they had a a correspondence program. So I was able to do all my pre-med between age of 15 and 18. I went into naturopathic medical school and at graduation, which happened when I was I graduated when I was 22. The the professors, when they got up to give me my degree, said, We just want to let everybody know this kid scared the crap out of us when he came here. He asked us questions we couldn't answer. And he, you know, I gave him heck. I didn't mean to. I was just honestly answering.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, but you had the knowledge. How much background, exactly. Right. You're you're like, okay, what's the next thing here? I can see that, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Exactly. And so one interesting thing that happened is Washington, D.C., when I was 19, 20 years old, I was, I was only, I wasn't even finished with my second year of med school. Washington, D.C. opened up this naturopathic physician license, and there were only going to be, I think, like 700 licenses issued. And the my professors found out about it, they got their license, and they tried to help all of the students to do it as well. And the rule was you had to go to DC, you took your exam. If you passed, you passed. If you didn't pass, you had two more shots at it, and then that was it. Okay. And so I was the youngest in the the the earliest in in college, uh, you know, in med school, that student that they they finiggled giving me a advanced standing. You had had to have a certificate, a degree, or a diploma in naturopathy or naturopathic medicine to to even sit for the exam. So they gave me an advanced standing certificate. I'm 20 years old. I got a year and a half of med school left, and I went to Washington, D.C. I took the exam and I aced it. So I actually had my medical license a year and a half before I graduated from med school. I did med I finished med school, went to Mexico for my internship, and I spent two years down there. And that's where I met doctors like Tony Jimenez from the Hope for Cancer Institute. Before he started the Hope for Cancer Institute, I interned under him at one of the clinics where he worked. Okay. In uh that was all back in the middle. Where did you meet Jensen at? That was at that school. That school. That that was just been man, that would have been ninety-five, ninety-six.

SPEAKER_05

Whoa, so ninety-six. So let's think about this. This is before he got prostate cancer in the world. Yes, it was before he Yeah, yeah. Did I tell you that story? Did I tell you how I heard about that?

SPEAKER_03

I re yes, I think I think so. I think you said tell me again, please.

SPEAKER_05

Well, you know, we're brand new in this, you know, Living Waters is brand new. This is 2009. I went to a health show at the Expo Idaho, had a little booth, met this guy who was making some probiotics, enzymes that we clean up polluted lakes. We hit it off. One day he walks to my office. Now I'm thinking at this time, the heck with this. This is not, we're not gonna make any money. This is shoot. Right. You know, we're just feeding the thing. And he comes in, he was got his cell phone, a little flip phone, he goes, David, listen to this. And he hands me the phone. He walks right into my office, hands me the phone, I go, Hello? Chiropractor from North Idaho, who has the oldest chiropractic clinic at that time. I don't know her name, don't remember all that. Says, Hey, I hear what you're doing. I think it's fantastic. Keep going. I've got, you gotta read a book by Bernard Jensen, and it's out of print, but I'll get it to you if you don't have it. Well, I just bought every book I could from Bernard Jensen International. Right, sure, sure. And thankfully I did because they no longer exist. But I says, Well, hold on. I pulled it off the shelf. I had a bunch of shelves. I went over there, pulled it, put the right book, opened it up. I kid you not, went right to the page that told his story about the prostate cancer, getting whacked in a car and uh being paralyzed from the waist down, leaves, go to North Idaho, Dr. Mike, whoever he was, came and coached his own process, colonics, healing, nutrition, the whole thing. And you know, the doctors have told him, Hey, at 88, you're too old to do chemo. Now you got whacked, you're paralyzed on the waist down, be one lucky guy to come back from this. He told in that story, he writes, I had to make a decision. Do I live? Do I live or die? Do I want to die? I made the decision to live. And it took him a year, and he did live. And Dr. Ellen, when I had her on the show, I asked her about this, and she says, David, I I truly think he would live longer. But he went on the road and started teaching again and writing. And I was just trying to keep up with his books. Right. I actually, and you know, it's really interesting how God's inspired us to stay in this business. Because every time I'm like, Okay, great, great. We're gonna do something different. Someone would walk in the door, someone would walk in the door and tell me a story about they met Dr. Jensen. And or like this one kid, he's my age. I met him, we started talking about Mercury feelings. We was at a marketing meeting here in Boise. And he says, Hey, I wait, I somehow I mentioned clone hydrotherapy and Jensen. I don't know how that happened. He's a god thank you. Wow, wow anyway. He says, Dave, get this. I was five years, six years old, my sister was four, my mom's dying in a hospital in Los Angeles. My dad was told, go home, hit the kids, bring him the kids back, say goodbye to mom because she's not gonna make it. On the way back on the radio, who's talking? Dr. Bernard Jensen. And he just thinks, what if? Walks in the hospital, picks up his dying wife, starts walking out, carrying her, the kids are following, and the doctors and nurses are yelling, you can't take her, you can't die. She's dying. She's dying. She says, Well, if she's dead, you're done. And he puts in the car. Right. What are you gonna do?

SPEAKER_03

I mean, exactly.

SPEAKER_05

You know, he goes to the radio station and they says, Well, you know, we don't give out his address. No, look at my wife's in the car dying. If she dies, it's on you. Whew.

SPEAKER_07

There you go. Okay.

SPEAKER_05

He starts talking to Dr. Jensen, goes to the ranch. Wow. And at that time in 2010, she was 75 years of age, living well. Wow. Salt Lake City, Utah. And uh, I don't remember the kid's name, the guy's name, he's my age. He he was he was a naturopath. He was doing practice of natural stuff in in California, and he switched careers, became a contractor, and came to Idaho. Anyway, huh? So these things just pop before me, doc. Right at the right time to say, okay, we'll give it another six months. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

You know, Dr. Jensen was he was amazing. He had there are and and it this is something important. There are a lot of doctors do what I tell you, not what I do, right? Okay, so I believe that if what you speak and what you do are the same, everything you speak has carries all kinds of weight. It's got power. There's congruence when you when you actually practice what you preach, right? He was one that practiced what he preached. And if you look at it, it's process that healed him when he went. He went back, did what he he needed someone else to help him through it, but it he went back and did what he did for patients. And that's that tells you whether it was true or not.

SPEAKER_05

Past the 2001 at the age of 92. What was the big thing for you that you got from him? What what did you do?

SPEAKER_03

That process of detox. Okay. That's that you know, how you know, if things aren't moving, you can't eliminate it. Did he teach you any iridology or did he share how he kept charts? The charts are amazing. There he had the best charts, the absolute best.

SPEAKER_05

How did that how did that come to be?

SPEAKER_03

He years, years. It took him, I think, 20, 25 years of studying to get that whole chart really mapped and refined. It was it was a long time. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

You can, by the way, those listening, I've got the charts here, living waters of 20 bucks. Everyone should have these charts on their wall because it shows with you the relationship to the body part and where the toxins are in the body and the gut. Right. And of course, it ties into the eyes. And that's the first person I met was an aridologist. And who's like the top iridologist, Dr. Ellen? Mm-hmm. Did you meet her?

SPEAKER_03

I no, I never got to meet her. Okay. It was before she was fall, she was she later on, she kind of became his right-hand man and you know, yeah, she married, you know, she had scoliosis. Right.

SPEAKER_05

And she had her book brack and back broke to put rods in. And then uh as a young lady got in a car accident, everything broke, was in like traction for like, I don't know, eight months or some crazy thing, and just prayed that when she, if she got well, she'd get out, she'd figure out how to heal this, she'd teach other people. And she went from East Coast to West Coast somebody, I don't remember exactly. It's probably it's in the podcast. Number the number one podcast, the first show. And ran into the Jensens and spent time there and then just got became part of the family, married his son. Right. Now she just had to have a back surgery, and I heard she was doing great. I don't know what happened, but she's taking time off right now. Wonderful way. She's my age, maybe that's great. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. It just blows my mind that more people in the in in the healing arts aren't aren't gravitating that. I mean, it's it seems to me, maybe it's here's here's my theory. You tell me what you think. Yeah. You go to med school, you spend a half a million dollars at least. Now you're sucked into the kind of hard to get out, isn't it? Yeah, big payments. Now you need to practice it, takes even bigger payments for your liability. This is this is David's theory. Sure, sure. How can you drop out of that and do something inexpensive like what we do or recommend it? Because you gotta keep the deal going. Right, right. You gotta have that. It seems like it was pre-planned that way.

SPEAKER_03

Yes. It's all could be wrong. All absolutely. That's that's it. That's the yeah, there's a lot of that for sure.

SPEAKER_05

Well, you know, and some of the guys have stepped out, some big names, and you know them. Uh, and and Susan Summers, she wrote about it, she wrote a book, and she interviewed five guys. I can't remember their names all right now. Right. Dot cancer. Uh-huh. Do you remember the book?

SPEAKER_03

Yes. I was it a better way or a better life, or I don't remember.

SPEAKER_05

I can't. I remember asking the same docs, five docs, same question, why don't other docs do this? And they all replied without being in the same room. Right. Because we all got brainwashed. Right, exactly.

SPEAKER_03

That leads me to I what I tell patients is just because medicine, Western medicine says something is incurable, it only means they don't have a cure for it.

SPEAKER_05

And they're the only ones that can claim it.

SPEAKER_03

Right.

SPEAKER_05

We can't claim it. We can't say that. Well, which is fine. We both have our place. I mean, if you break a leg, if you get hit in a car, I mean, I I need my my my brain stitched. I I want a med, right?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, that's what they do. It's exactly, exactly. And they they do a great job. Come to a colon Idot therapist and get a broken bone. I'm not gonna help you. I I have about 20 from my patient base are medical doctors, by the way. Wow. And I have one that's a surgeon, he's in California. He he's uh general surgeon. He said, you know what's beautiful about what you doc, what you do, doc? I said, What is that? He said, Well, you know, we're down here, your patients are down here in this pit, and you throw a ladder down, and you know, sometimes that first step is all you gotta take to get out of the pit. Yeah, right. Other people need to take another step. Some people may have to, you know, but you start here at the bottom where you whatever you're starting with can't hurt people. It there's there's no harm, absolutely no harm. And then you have all these different ways you can escalate if you have to. He said, You know what we do? I said, What's that? He says, We hit you with the absolute highest amount of drugs that your body can handle without us killing you, yeah, and hope you survive. Yeah, he said that's the difference. Yeah. He said, You can't heal with what I'm doing. This doctor, that's what he said. You can't heal that way. What you are doing is rehabilitating people's ability to heal. And he said, That's he says, it's beautiful. It's just beautiful.

SPEAKER_05

And if you need those drugs in order long enough to keep yourself alive, absolutely, for sure. Somebody like you, and you know, get the nutrition and get the detox going, and and it it gives us a chance we which we didn't have, you know, 400 years ago. Right, right, sure, exactly. Like when my wife fell off the roof, she we won't read a whole bunch of books back. There were the era was like 1450. Uh-huh. She's laying on the ground in our backyard, and she's sitting there and she goes, I wonder what they would have done in 1450. I thought. I thought, well, I would have probably taken a rock to your head. Right. Okay, sweetheart. Because there was no coming back from an ankle bone shot out of the body, broke, uh, two-inch crush, broke, three vertebrae in her back broke. They told us she wouldn't walk. Wow. We went to the hospital. I took my on-to-bed machine, I took biomass, I took my own refrigerator, brought in organic soups and juices, and we're there 24 days. And then on the last day, she went from Norco to Tramadol, and she gets out, she goes, David, I gotta figure out something else. This is taking me crazy. I get why people go postal. And so she's saying this to me, I'm going, like, my God, what are we gonna do? Because she's in, you know, she's got a lot of, she's got double casts. Right, right. And so what was really interesting, a friend of mine called me, I don't know, like six, seven, eight months prior to that. Hey, Dave, well, there's this product out of Mexico, and it's really helps with pain, it's all natural. Well, what it was was a very high dose of white wool. Sure. Right. The color was purple. And for some reason, I bought a bunch of those, and then when that hit, I bought like, I don't know, 60 bucks. Wow. And that and B vitamins. We had a product called Overdrive. Sure. Kind of an anti-inflammatory, and we she put together her own concoction, drinking, you know, I juice for her every day. And we sort of came out of that. She went from Tramadol.

SPEAKER_03

Wow.

SPEAKER_05

She was, it made her super easy. Yeah, it just yeah, yeah. And I'm just thinking, like, whoa, that was amazing that I met the guy that this guy's always into marketing, right? Network marketing. Hey, it was a straight front. I listened to him and bought it, and then I and then I thought, I better buy some more. And they and they they banned the product. Right. Of course. My wife just took the last pill like a month ago. This had been 2012, now 12 years. Wow. Oh, wow. Yeah, that's great. Yeah. So I remember the doctor coming in the room and she says, Well, I gotta get you released. She goes, Well, how's that go about? You know, she says, Well, you gotta get a doctor. She kept asked, Who do you suggest? We don't have a doctor. What do you suggest? And he finally one day he gets so upset because she would take hot blood pressure medication because the blood pressure would get white coasters. No, I'm doing this with my mind. I'm changing my blood pressure. And she did. And he got so upset with her. She goes, Well, I'd find someone who'd get their hands around all this stuff. He waves his hand, he walks out of the room, and we're like, Okay, well, that was somebody. But we found this doctor, he was crossing another building, probably in his 70s, and we walked into his office, these great charts, natural charts. We're like, whoa, dude, this is pretty amazing. Oh, yeah, did you know this and this? And I started juicing, and he's like, You found the cupboard, right? It meant me. So cool. What a chance. Wow, amazing. That's a chatting with you. We gosh, this is probably four or five shows, I think.

SPEAKER_03

Great. Uh well.

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That's awesome. Well, we gotta do this again sometime. But I'll make I'll make this probably two or three shows, I'm guessing. Nice. Okay, cool. Yeah, well, I got four about 40 minutes on the radio. Podcast can be as long as it wants to be, but you know, people have a certain attention span. Yeah, exactly. But you got a lot, a lot of good nuggets, and this is awesome. Good, good stuff. Awesome. Well, God bless you, brother. Thank you. Thank you for being on. And those listening, so Karen, kind of cut that part and let's just put the finish here. So check out Dr. Newsom in Meridian, Idaho, drnewsome.com. Join his inner circle, reach out to him for a tela if you're somewhere in the country or the world listening to this. We're we've been listening to in many, many countries now. And uh reach out to him and get some wise wisdom to help your live your best life until next week. Have a blessed week, my friends.