269.Qigong Healing Explained: How Reconnecting With Your Body Unlocks True Health & Inner Peace

Ming Tong Gu (0:00): You're able to improve, continuously improve day after day. That's what you focus on. So it's different focus on like, oh, what to fix this problem? You focus on how I can improve my energy, improve my condition, improving myself. And that's very different approach than kind of treatment, problem solving approach.

Ming Tong Gu (0:24): Does that make sense?

Unknown Speaker (0:26): Yeah. Where's the tutorial? Where's the book? You've got a book that you've just released, right?

Ming Tong Gu (0:31): Yeah, the book's But sitting behind me right there, that's the physical book. Right, right. So yeah, this book is really come from my whole life experience. You know? Thirty years of teaching, practicing qigong, but also living my life, you know, from childhood and including how we epidemically get disconnected from this body, from our own heart for all these different reasons, educations, you know, traumas, life stress, and the way we're growing up.

Ming Tong Gu (1:06): But now how we can make the choice, the process, the practice, help us to come back to this body again.

David Dahas (1:13): Your website, mingtongvutoku.com. The book is called Coming Home. It's an embodied awakening, and it's just been released. You just had a big summit a week ago. I suppose there's probably some CDs or some ways to tune in and watch.

David Dahas (1:31): You had a lot of people on there talking about energy. Right?

Ming Tong Gu (1:34): Actually, when you purchase the book, you're finding a code and link in the book. I forgot what page. Towards the end of the book. And you can claim the free video resources, including some of the best segment from the Global Summit, as well guided practice, as well deeper guidance how we go to the next step of claim your body, discovering your power, fulfilling your purpose.

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David Dahas (3:25): And today, I have a very special guest, very unique guest to this show. His name is master Ming Tong Gu, and he's a highly respected qigong master, healer, and teacher best known for bringing wisdom, healing, and Qigong. For global audience, he's born in China during the cultural revolution. He faced poverty, hunger, family separation, and chronic health issues, severe asthma and scoliosis. Being the first person from his village to attend college, earning a bachelor's of mathematics and two master's degree, including an MFA from Ohio State University before returning to China in 1997.

David Dahas (3:58): There he trained directly under grandmaster Doctor. Pang Ming at the world's largest medicine less Qigong Hospital, which treat over 200,000 patients across 185 conditions with a reported, get this, ninety five percent improvement rate using only Qigong practices. That's amazing. Through dedicated practice, Master Gu fully healed his own conditions. He also trained in Tibetan Buddhist, Doc Chen tradition with several high lamas and draws from Taoist Buddhist and other wisdom lineages.

David Dahas (4:26): He was named Qigong Master of the Year by the thirteen World Congress on Qigong and Traditional Chinese Healing. He founded the Tai Chi Center offering online programs, live streams, the path of embodied healing awakening series. It is 150 acre Southwest Sanctuary retreat center near Santa Fe, New Mexico. So his work emphasized embodied, embodied, I'm sorry, embodied awakening, self healing through gentle, adaptable movements, sound visualization, breath, and meditation that activates the body's innate, intelligent, and chi which stands for life force energy. I'm most excited because he told me that he is neighbors and friends with Greg Braden, who I followed and read all of his books.

David Dahas (5:09): And I've never met Greg, but would like to someday. And so this is really cool. I've also, before we went on the air, we talked about HeartMath, which we've been doing at Living Waters for some time. Welcome to the show.

Ming Tong Gu (5:20): So thank you. Appreciate this opportunity to be with you, with all the listeners.

David Dahas (5:25): I think gonna be a really cool show. So tell us a little about yourself. Explain to us how you got obviously, you got sick. You're probably seeking how to get well. Tell us a little bit about your journey.

David Dahas (5:37): I had a similar journey trying to heal working to heal my body. That's why I'm here.

Unknown Speaker (5:41): Right.

Unknown Speaker (5:41): Tell us about that.

Ming Tong Gu (5:42): Right. Yeah. You know, I experiencing experienced really hardship through childhood. You know, you mentioned that's load the bios. But without going into the detail, you know, really feel limited, feel lost, feel disconnected, and feel really lack of meaning of life and lack of happiness, not only in health challenges.

Ming Tong Gu (6:09): So I tried everything, you know, like everybody have, not only, you know, different, you know, treatment, different healing modality, but also academic success. You know? Study mathematics for ten years, then discover Tashin for fine arts, study, you know, fine art for ten years, become professional artist, and still didn't feel happy or fulfill, you know, satisfied. So eventually, I discovered Qigong actually in The US when I was in graduate school in five hours. And first time in my life, felt sense of, like, settling in my own skin, feel like comfort with myself instead of constantly striving, constantly looking for something else to fulfill myself.

Ming Tong Gu (6:56): And that was quite a unique feeling at the time. And of course, it's subtle. I didn't know the implication of it, but strong enough start to become serious. And practicing Qigong, then I discover this is, like, really serious. This is something come from five thousand years of history in China, but it's been kind of underground until early eighties, especially, you know, later eighties in China.

Ming Tong Gu (7:24): But I left her in China in '85, so didn't know anything about it until I discovered the medicine at Qigong Hospital, and the founder is my Qigong teacher. So eventually, went to the Medicine of Chikung Hospital, become really serious and dedicated, and slowed my own practice, recover from all these so called incurable and chronic condition. Later on, I realized the idea of incurable, this kind of diagnosis, is literally just a label. And what that means is whoever diagnoses you as incurable, what that means is from what they know, whatever treatment, whatever medicine, that cannot help you to recover.

Unknown Speaker (8:13): Right, so you get a label.

Ming Tong Gu (8:15): Right. It's from their resources. From what they know, they cannot heal you or make you recover from. That doesn't mean the condition itself is incurable. But most treatment is all from what they know, whatever means they use.

Ming Tong Gu (8:32): In this case, referring to allopathic medicine, not including holistic medicine, not including mind body connection, not including the power of your mind, power of energy. That is really shocking when I realize that. But most people start to live with such diagnosis, start breathing such story as final, like, death sentence. Yeah. So when people coming to Qigong, they're realizing, oh my god.

Ming Tong Gu (9:04): There's so much I don't know about my body. So much I don't know the power of my mind. So much I don't know about energy. Then slow the direct experience of connecting with your own body, connecting with energy. The new experience arrives, new feeling arrives, new power you can discover.

Ming Tong Gu (9:24): And that is really the most powerful thing existing in the whole universe. That's what it will do.

David Dahas (9:31): So I just want to clear up. So the timeline, you came to The United States and then you went back to China to study in the medicine less hospital. Right. And that's when you figured out how to heal your body from the scoliosis and the asthma?

Unknown Speaker (9:42): Exactly. Exactly. How did that connection happen?

David Dahas (9:45): I'm just curious how the connection happened.

Ming Tong Gu (9:47): Yeah. So I discovered qigong here and saw a friend. She was teaching this form of qigong as well, tai chi, but she's, native American I mean, here, you know, white skinned woman. And she's an artist too. So we start to, you know, become friend, then realizing she teaches qigong and Tai Chi.

Ming Tong Gu (10:09): And honestly, I didn't know anything about that. So I was like Wow. Almost like embarrassed. But then realizing Qigong existed in China for so long, and I had to discover all the way come to US, then eventually went back to China to study seriously.

David Dahas (10:29): Is there a lot of medicine less hospitals in China?

Ming Tong Gu (10:32): No, not really. There may be few at a time.

David Dahas (10:36): So they traditionally rely upon drugs and medications? Yeah,

Ming Tong Gu (10:40): of course. You know, most of us, first thing you can doesn't matter whether you live in China or in the West, first thing you explore is allopathic medication, right? Then you gradually explore integrated medicine or holistic medicine.

Unknown Speaker (10:54): Right.

Ming Tong Gu (10:54): Eventually, explore like energy medicine. Right? Then you eventually explore like the practice. That's how no. Most people go through that.

Unknown Speaker (11:04): You know? Same way in China.

David Dahas (11:06): Is it looked down upon from the allopathic side in China just like it would be here in The United States from your traditional allopathic medicine doctors? Is it looked down upon to look at

Unknown Speaker (11:16): I energy think look down or up. It's more like most people are not aware of it even.

Unknown Speaker (11:22): Just not aware.

Ming Tong Gu (11:23): Exist. Right? So, but if they hear it, they don't understand even it's possible. And so without experiencing it, you're right, they're gonna dismiss it basically. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (11:33): Yeah, ignoring it. Exactly. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (11:35): Right. Well, I mean, at colon hydrotherapy. Colon hydrotherapy has been around for before Jesus, I mean, for years and thousands of

Unknown Speaker (11:42): Yeah, exactly.

David Dahas (11:44): Doctor. And in 2000 or 2020 or 1920, they wrote a book that basically said the colon and small intestine is just a pipe. There's really nothing there. It's just a poop pipe and nothing to see here, but we know that's not true today. It's, you know, everything every part of your body is connected to the colon small intestine.

David Dahas (11:59): So yeah, the forces out there that, you know, relying upon petroleum based medications really don't want to hear about us because we can help the body to heal.

Ming Tong Gu (12:08): Well, you know, most treatment, even a lot of even so called integrative, holistic, or functional medicine, is really still focused on treating, you know, it's like a symptom.

Unknown Speaker (12:20): Right.

Ming Tong Gu (12:21): It is a symptom or immediate causes. Immediate causes from whatever way we understand it. But literally, when you go deeper into the energetic cause, it's so much deeper than what do we know. So, but this is personal. It's like when people asking me, you know, what is the cause of my disease?

Ming Tong Gu (12:40): But if you look deeply, the only answer is everything. Everything. Your whole life, your whole history, all your stress, all your trauma, all the food you ate, all the environment you experience, all the stress you experience from relationship, job, money, everything. The body carries all that. And then eventually the body says, that's too much.

Unknown Speaker (13:00): I cannot carry anymore. So when we diagnose with the disease, it's like the body is communicating. You have to stop now. You have to pause now. You have to change now.

Unknown Speaker (13:11): You have to pay attention now. You have to walk with me now, basically.

David Dahas (13:14): Yeah. That's so true. The energy within we call it the issue in the tissue and how whether it's in the bur or some people we've found or they've came to conclusion through all the methods and tools we use at Living Waters, that it may have happened in the womb that mom was stressed or there was a lot of angst and then they come to earth with that and they've been constipated their whole life. In the case of a recent lady that came through, this is a cool story. She in 2017, she found out that she had cancer.

David Dahas (13:41): So, they took out a body part and did chemo and radiation and in 2019, body part out chemo and radiation 2021, another repeat new body part out 2024 and went to spend a lot of money with a natural path and was told, you have stage four cancer, nothing we can do. So she found out about us, a long story short, and she says, this makes sense to me. So she comes through it. And as I mentioned earlier, we do the heart math coherence. We're practicing that breath work.

David Dahas (14:07): We're doing the sound bowl therapy. We're doing all these different tools. And one of the things I have is a thing called I call life journey emotional release. It's the guided meditation I walk her through. And we come out of that and she goes, David, David, David, that was amazing.

David Dahas (14:18): No one's ever done that to me. I go, Uh-oh, what I do? Is David. Thought I had she had someone, a person when she was two years old, do something very bad to her and continue that for a number of years. And for twenty years she did talk therapy, she told me.

David Dahas (14:32): And she says, I thought I had forgiven that. But the way I had to go through it and forgive the person as her younger self, she did. And cool sport. He says, David, that tumor the size of a tennis ball that's been in my abdomen when I came here, it's gone, David. Beautiful.

Unknown Speaker (14:46): Woah, awesome. And so I taped it. I said, Oh, you gotta put this on tape. Nobody will believe this, but yeah. And so what I hear you saying is that we got to go back into all that trauma, all that issue, that anxiety.

David Dahas (14:59): And you know what's really amazing to me is that I had no idea how I mean, I had the ideal childhood because so many people have been sexually abused, physically abused their whole life. And now they've dealt with it. It manifested, as you well know, some kind of a physical illness. So tell us about how you your practice, how can that help me if I've got some kind of an issue? Walk us through what that looks like.

Ming Tong Gu (15:23): Yeah. So, you know, as you said, I cannot agree more. You know, when deep down is all emotionally related, when we have a physical issue, it's the physicalized of emotional issue, mental issue, life issue in general. The body carry manifest as a physical, you know, condition, basically, physical life. So in order to address the physical condition, we have to address in the mental, emotional.

Ming Tong Gu (15:54): But the way we're addressing it in Qigong is very different, David. It's like this. You know? Normally, we're thinking, okay. If you have mental issue

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Ming Tong Gu (19:12): You do therapy, whatever, you know, mental work, mindsets, you know, positive thinking. Yeah. That's beneficial. Right? And meditation even included in addressing the mental aspect.

Ming Tong Gu (19:23): Then you have a physical issue, you go slow the physical treatment, physical exercises, you know, doing this kind of approach. Then you have emotional issue, you do emotional release, whatever, you know, approaching it. So that's how we do it usually. And this is good. It's beneficial.

Ming Tong Gu (19:37): But you're still addressing as if these three separate pieces.

Unknown Speaker (19:41): Right.

Ming Tong Gu (19:41): When you walk with energy, it's very different. That's the uniqueness of qigong. It's like you think of your body as a physicalized version of energy. Your emotion is more subtle expression of energy of yourself. And then mental, spiritual is much more subtle energy version of yourself.

Ming Tong Gu (20:01): But all these energy is inseparable inside of you. Even you experiencing them differently, perceive them differently, label them differently, but they're inseparable. Inseparable. So not only they're interconnected, you know, physical affecting the mental, emotional, vice versa, so on. But that's kind of normal way we're thinking of it.

Ming Tong Gu (20:19): But in Qigong, it's like, oh, your physical body is physical manifestation of the same subtle energy, which is visible, invisible. Your emotional experience is more subtle experience of the same energy. And your mental, even spiritual experience of life is also is a conditioning of the same energy system, basically. So in a subtle level is the same energy. So when you work with it, you okay, I do energetic movement.

Ming Tong Gu (20:44): In the beginning, you feel physical, right? But then you go deeper further, suddenly, oh, this is subtle, more than physical. It's the same energy as you're walking through the body. For example, if I do sound, then use a sound working with the emotion and then get into the subtle energy field. Then you're realizing again the experience in the beginning might be like, oh, this is more physical sensation.

Ming Tong Gu (21:07): This is more emotional feeling. This is more mental insight. But then when you go deeper, deeper realizing they're all interconnected, inseparable inseparable. So even you're doing different practice, movement, sound, meditation, but the energetic feeling come out of that is the same, same feeling. Then realizing not only all these three all these three physical, emotional, mental, spiritual is inseparable, but is different manifestation of the same energy.

Ming Tong Gu (21:37): And that is a deeper integration, more than, oh, addressing this slice, that slice, another slice in a different way. So that's become like so integrative process. So internal process is like this. There's three things really most important in Qigong healing. First is connecting with your body.

Ming Tong Gu (21:57): You're the only one can connect with your body. But connecting with your body is different than treating your body, using your body, fixing your own body.

Unknown Speaker (22:07): Yeah. Say connecting

Ming Tong Gu (22:08): with Very different perception. So, if you look at a trauma, for example, most people are like, Oh, for whatever history, whatever trauma, then we have all these conditions in the body, the feeling, emotion, whatever, you know, feel disconnect, feel unsettled, feel worthless, whatever these feeling, right, feels like in the body. And then but often, the foundation of that is this disconnection from your own body, this disconnection from your own self. Because when you disconnect from your own body, it's disassociation. That's what trauma, you know, severe trauma, trauma absol means, you know?

Ming Tong Gu (22:45): You dissociate. So the deeper dissociation is dissociating with your own body. When you disconnect from your own body, you're disconnecting from yourself. If you disconnect with your own body, how can you truly connect with yourself? Because it's just become an identity, a story of yourself.

Ming Tong Gu (23:03): It's not true presence of yourself. So one of the most powerful, you know, insight I want to share is the simple three truths. Without this body, I do not exist as a human being. Without this body, I do not exist as a human being. No matter you're thinking, who am I?

Ming Tong Gu (23:22): It's like, oh, story, identity, experience, you know, pure consciousness, whatever you identify. But the truth is, without this body, I do not exist as human being. Same way for you. Same way for every single human being. And use next to choose is like, without this body, I cannot experience life as human being.

Ming Tong Gu (23:44): We talk about experience, so on. That's important. But the truth is, without this body, you cannot experience life as human being. So we're so much talking about the mind, experience, story, and so on without realizing this body is so most essential. We continue misusing the body, mistreating the body, misconceiving this body as object, as a vehicle, as functionality, as a problem to solve, even as a prison to run away from.

Ming Tong Gu (24:16): So that is the first most important part of the journey of healing, including spiritual awakening, is able to claim your own body, returning to your own body, experience your own body, feeling your own body, loving your own body. That is different, very different than treating this body as object.

David Dahas (24:42): In other words, what I hear you saying, I can put this in different words, I've got a broken arm. Yeah. Okay. And so I remember years ago, well, when I found out I had cancer, the guy ended up hiring for my personal coach, he sassed me, he says, Why did you create that? And I paused and I went, What?

David Dahas (25:02): And then he said, Do you wish to live or do you wish to die? And I went, I mean, I remember it, where I was, the date, the sun on my face, parking lot. I went, Woah, those are really amazing questions. Why did I create this? Do I want to live or do I want to die?

David Dahas (25:20): I was 46 years old at the time. And I had, you know, my son was six and my daughters were 19. And I mean, it was it was interesting. I was, you know, I still had a lot of that a lot to give. And that question really just made me sit back.

David Dahas (25:36): Yeah. So today, knowing what we know here at Living Waters, my wife and I and staff and everybody comes through, we always ask, if I have my back hurting or I have something hurting on the right side or the left side, my wife goes, which side of the body is it on? And then she's, Oh, you're upset with me, aren't you? That's interesting how we carry around these things and don't look at that. I think because we're going so fast in life, I want it like the broken arm.

David Dahas (26:05): Want to put a cast on it and get it healed and let's go.

Unknown Speaker (26:09): Right. Well, the juicy is the deep is the problem is we're living above the neck.

Unknown Speaker (26:15): Ah. In

Ming Tong Gu (26:16): our That is the number one problem. That's the only problem we're facing. And to solve that problem, we cannot solve any other problems. We may occasionally come to the body, say, oh, I need to fix this, taking care of this, giving drug, giving this, whatever. But we're still not really truly loving this body, connecting with this body, claiming this body as who we are as human being.

Ming Tong Gu (26:45): We're living above the head. The story, the mental projection, the construction, even have a total misunderstanding of what this body is. That is the real problem. I'm here to here to address.

Unknown Speaker (27:00): So we have to get out of our head.

Ming Tong Gu (27:02): Exactly. In order to get into the body.

Unknown Speaker (27:04): How do I get out of my head? I'm busy. I've got 10,000 things going on. I run a small business. How do I stop and get out of my head?

David Dahas (27:12): What do I get into? What am I going what am I looking for? What I doing?

Ming Tong Gu (27:16): Yeah. So like, for example, at this moment when we're putting your hands on your chest. K. Close your eye. We pause from thinking, from the busyness, from this stress for thoughts, stress for, you know, performance, stress for goal making, whatever it might be.

Ming Tong Gu (27:34): Just feel your body. Feel your chest. Feel your heart. Embracing all the sensation feeling inside of us, inside your own body, you know, whatever is true, this moment for you. And you bring attention to your own body.

Ming Tong Gu (27:50): I feel you. I love you. I appreciate you. And that's the beginning of the journey. Then you do movement practice, opening the energy of the body where it's just contracted, enarmed, disconnected.

Ming Tong Gu (28:05): You do the sound practice to awakening energy inside of your heart, inside of your five organ systems, slow vibration, really connecting with your soul. Feel the energy awakening, opening, flowing again. And you do meditation. Allow the mind to simply connect with wholeness, connecting with awareness, connecting with not only the visible but also invisible. Not only physical, but also mental I mean, non physical aspect of self.

Ming Tong Gu (28:35): So all this practice is about coming back to yourself, discover, reclaiming your body, your power, your inner medicine, your deeper purpose as human being. So that's the process. But first step, I visualize same point this.

Unknown Speaker (28:51): I Do want to visualize?

Unknown Speaker (28:52): Yes, you can visualize.

David Dahas (28:53): The connection between my heart and my liver my organs? Do I want to do that? Is that

Unknown Speaker (29:00): Absolutely. Too

Unknown Speaker (29:01): Okay.

Ming Tong Gu (29:01): You know, basic practice is just all these few things. One is movement. Right? Secondly is sound, sort of vibration. You're using your body as instrument.

Ming Tong Gu (29:14): You're making the sound, for example, shing. When I'm making the sound, I'm vibrating my heart, for example. Okay. And the third is visualization. Visualizing the energy connecting with the whole body, connecting with the earth, connecting with the universe.

Ming Tong Gu (29:31): And the next one is based breathing, incorporating the breathing. You can breathe into a different area of your body. So not just like long breathing, into the belly, into your heart, into your five organ system, into your brain, into your legs, so on. But the point is, most importantly, is connection. So it's not about activity you're engaging, not about the technique thinking you're doing this technique to fix a problem, But more importantly, oh, I'm doing that to connect with my own body, reconnecting with what's inside me already.

Ming Tong Gu (30:09): It's beyond as object, beyond whatever we seeking outside of us. Whatever outside of us may be a support for whatever time. For example, when the urgent case happens, life death happens, you know, medicine treatment can be really helpful, can be really critical. But on the other hand, the deep healing is still up to you individually, internally. The inner medicine is already inside of you.

Ming Tong Gu (30:43): So all these teaching, all these practice is for you to come back to discover what's inside of you already, realizing the true potential inside of you already. It's often I say, you know, miracle is about making the impossible possible. So when we say something impossible, we're looking at whatever perspective, whatever mean, approach we're using towards solving that problem. But when we go beyond these mindsets, beyond these even beliefs, beyond these approach, suddenly the impossible become possible. But the point is, you have to do it.

Ming Tong Gu (31:23): You have to practice it. You cannot just sit in there waiting for someone to save you, waiting for something to fix you, or even seeking for like instantaneous fix. I have this problem for decades. Now I'm looking for a miracle cure to fix this overnight. That's another biggest problem.

David Dahas (31:44): If I have a cancer tumor in my neck, or I have a heart condition, and they put me on some medication for my heart, is the practice the same?

Ming Tong Gu (31:54): Absolutely same. So using other approach to earn more time, You know, conventional medicine is very good for that. Yeah. Even controlling the symptoms, certain degrees. But then the most important healing is discovering the medicine inside of you through the practice.

Ming Tong Gu (32:15): So yes, the practice is the same. Because the practice is not focused on diagnosis. It's focused on well-being, focused on awakening the energy, opening the energy. Well, the bottom of mind is very simple. It's like this, David.

Ming Tong Gu (32:30): When the energy of your body slows its practice movement, sound, visualization, meditation, breathing, and so on when the energy awakening, opening, flowing again in the entire system, which is connecting the physical, emotional, mental, spiritual. Then your physical function of the body naturally improves, naturally improves. When the energy of your five organ system, especially your heart, awakening, opening, bigger, and so on, then you're experiencing more love, more joy. That

Unknown Speaker (33:04): is Am I the feeling love and joy when I'm doing this? Do I need to put that emotional connection to it when I'm

Unknown Speaker (33:10): You can.

Unknown Speaker (33:11): I think it's

Ming Tong Gu (33:11): still It's not really quiet. You can think of something emotionally impacted, including healing of trauma. You know, right now we're all disturbed by the wolf, for example. Emotional fear, emotional anxiety. Allow yourself.

Ming Tong Gu (33:28): Tap into that, feel that truth instead of avoiding it, fighting it, even analyzing it. You know, often we do so much mental work, trying to think of yourself out of stress. Stress is in the body. You cannot mentally think yourself out of the stress. That may feel like temporarily the mind shifting, focus on something new, you feel less stressful, but the body continues to carry the stress.

Ming Tong Gu (33:58): So until you get into the body, you cannot addressing the real thing. So by doing this practice yeah. Know, you're walking with energy again. So when the energy awakening, opening, transforming the emotion, so on, then your mental capacity, yeah, start to improve. Your creativity, your calmness, your, you know, clarity, you know, also purposefulness, start to come back deeply.

Ming Tong Gu (34:30): And you know, spiritually, you feel connected. And the most important thing is the spiritual foundation of connection. You know, for me, what is the essence of spirituality? It's connection. Not only connecting, like say, whatever big presence, whatever name you give into, but connecting with yourself, every aspect of yourself, including your body, connecting with Mother Earth, connecting with all life, all relationship, connecting with the visible as well the invisible.

Ming Tong Gu (35:08): So when we're connecting, feeling this connection, we're spiritually experiencing oneness. That is beyond just belief, beyond just faith. And that is a direct experience of spirituality.

David Dahas (35:21): When you say spiritual, as someone who is a Christian I'm sure there's lots of Christians that listen to our show. There's different different you know, there's probably Muslims as well and Jewish as well. So what would you say to someone? Am I going outside of what Jesus taught us by doing this kind of work? Am I being not true to my religious understanding?

David Dahas (35:48): What would you say to someone like that?

Ming Tong Gu (35:51): I mean, it's slow experience. Yeah. Qigong is not any kind of belief system. It's not belief system. It's not faith tradition.

Ming Tong Gu (36:00): It's highlighting self discovery, discovering God within you, discovering whatever you believe in within you already. Still be direct experience. Yeah. Your direct experience is energetic. Yeah.

Ming Tong Gu (36:18): It's energetic. Your personal interpretation can be different. But the human experience of connection, you know, deep down is universal.

David Dahas (36:27): But we're taught we're made in God's image, and God is truly within.

Unknown Speaker (36:31): Exactly.

David Dahas (36:32): If I'm slowing my body down, when I hear you say, if I'm slowing it down and I'm doing this breath work, I'm gonna get more in contact with Jesus, the Holy Spirit, etcetera, by sitting down, slowing down, and then connecting and releasing that old trauma issues.

Unknown Speaker (36:53): Exactly.

David Dahas (36:54): But what if I have a lot of anxiety, depression? Is it just going to take many sessions for me to keep doing this until I finally calm down and allow the communication between all the cells and the neurons that are firing and wiring in the body to finally come together and slow down and connect and really get true peace within?

Ming Tong Gu (37:15): So good question. It's a common question. So like when you're practicing one session, you automatically feel better. Yeah. All calm.

Unknown Speaker (37:24): Well, that few minutes here,

Unknown Speaker (37:26): I felt

David Dahas (37:26): I felt my body relax. I felt my legs lose tension.

Ming Tong Gu (37:30): Exactly. Yeah. So you experience that. But then when you do it consistently, then the benefit become more long lasting. But the deepest benefit is about changing the baseline of the energetic pattern.

Ming Tong Gu (37:46): You know, the energetic pattern is only two pattern. One is contracting pattern, and there is these opening, flowing, connecting patterns. So we are programmed by life, all the stress, all the trauma, all the problem we experience in our life personally, collectively, this energy system in the constant fight flight contracted pattern. So when we do this practice, yeah, we learn to softening, we learn to gradually opening. And it's not overnight.

Ming Tong Gu (38:21): When you're repeating this practice, then the pattern changes. You're changing the baseline of energetic programming. And from that baseline change, then the long lasting health is continuously improving, including emotional well-being, mental capacity, as well spiritual connections, fulfillment in all the levels. So really, it doesn't matter how complex the issue is. And it doesn't matter how, you know, even urgent that issue might be, how, you know, intense that problem might be.

Ming Tong Gu (38:59): It's like any practice you do.

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Ming Tong Gu (42:13): You're able to improve, continuously improve day after day. That's what you focus on. So it's different focus on like, oh, what to fix this problem? You focus on how I can improve my energy, improve my condition, improving myself. And that's very different approach than kind of treatment, problem solving approach.

Ming Tong Gu (42:38): Does that make sense?

Unknown Speaker (42:40): Yeah. Where's the tutorial? Where's the book? You've got a book that you've just released.

Unknown Speaker (42:45): Right? Yeah. The book's sitting behind me right there. Right? But that's the physical book.

Ming Tong Gu (42:49): Right. Right. So, yeah, this book is really come from my whole life experience. You know? Thirty years of teaching, practicing Qigong, but also living my life, you know, from childhood and including how we epidemically get disconnected from this body, from our own heart for all these different reason, educations, you know, traumas, life stress, and the way we're growing up.

Ming Tong Gu (43:20): But now how we can make the choice, the process, the practice, help us to come back to this body again.

David Dahas (43:28): Your website, mingtongbittongo.com.dotcom. The book is called Coming Home. It's an embodied awakening, and it's just been released. You just had a big summit a week ago. I suppose there's probably some CDs or and some ways to tune in and and watch.

David Dahas (43:45): You had a lot of people on there talking about energy. Right?

Ming Tong Gu (43:49): Actually, when you purchase the book, you're finding a code and link in the book. I forgot what page, towards the end of the book. And you can claim the free video resources, including some of the best segment from the Global Summit, as well guided practice, as well deeper guidance how we go to the next step of claiming your body, discovering your power, fulfilling your purpose, especially in this age of AI and disruption, war

David Dahas (44:22): Oh, and so Well, there's a lot of angst. Could enough of us get together? I know Lynn McTaggart. I'm sure you probably know doctor Lynn McTaggart. Absolutely.

David Dahas (44:30): She did a little experience about twenty five years ago, and I've been thinking, we need to get on, I need to put a page up on Living Waters and have a prayer intention night once a week. Because she actually did, you probably know this, where she, they've actually felt peace and love towards a war. And boy, we should need this today. Holy smokes, I don't know what's happening. Can we enough of us get together and then focus on peace and love and and and push that energy into the universe and as as a feeling and and change the course of these kinds of things?

David Dahas (45:02): Can we do that?

Ming Tong Gu (45:03): Of course. Why not? And we're doing it in this community. You know, we're dedicating all of the practice individually, in a group, whenever we can to this deeper benefit of world peace, slow healing. Because peace only can come, slow healing.

Ming Tong Gu (45:22): There's no such thing as peace, you know, in Tamalfu, trying to resolve all the problem of conflict. Has to come from healing, deep healing, trauma healing, generational healing, personal healing, physical, emotional healing, all inseparable. So more healing we're generating, more the energy frequency is coming to inner peace. So the deeper healing is really about rediscovering your inner peace. When we embody the inner peace, then the world will naturally experience global peace.

Unknown Speaker (45:59): So in other words,

Unknown Speaker (46:00): the way around it.

David Dahas (46:01): Heal the peace within us amongst our families and friends and that chaos, heal that first.

Unknown Speaker (46:09): That what Jesus heard by

David Dahas (46:11): the doctor, heal thyself? Is that what he meant?

Ming Tong Gu (46:13): It's not like a lineal. The more we do the healing inside discovering inner peace, the more responding we life from the inner peace, more other people responding to us, responding to each other with inner peace. More we do this, yeah, then the global healing, global inner peace become a reality, live the experience. And that is different from absence of conflict, because conflict is going to continue to exist. So when we healing is about making peace with the internal conflict.

Ming Tong Gu (46:51): So more we making peace with the conflict, more we can discover inner peace as well global peace.

David Dahas (46:59): Could we take this to the halls of our state legislatures and our congress and have them do this practice every day and Yeah. Different results?

Ming Tong Gu (47:08): We cannot expecting them or anyone else besides us. So more we do ourselves than become possible.

David Dahas (47:15): It's a rebound effect. What you're saying is what what we're expressing, it's like the sun coming up. Know, the sun's gonna come up brighter. We are brighter people, If we're expressing the love and gratitude, happiness, and joy, and if we're pushing that outward

Unknown Speaker (47:31): Yeah. We can share this We can share that.

Unknown Speaker (47:33): It's gonna affect Yeah. The trees and everything

Ming Tong Gu (47:37): example, when visualization we did in the practice of war for war peace, imagine ourselves in both side of the wall. It doesn't matter which side of the wall. You imagine with both side of the wall, feel compassion, feel love for all of them directly involved in the wall and feel that peace with yourself so you can feel the peace with all the people involved in the war. And that's the frequency of peace and harmony.

David Dahas (48:16): Do I always stay still when I do this, or or is there any movements I should incorporate? Does the book go into that?

Ming Tong Gu (48:22): So it's all important. You know? It's like movement help you to open the energy. The sound help you to open the energy. The sitting, walking meditation help you to open the energy.

Ming Tong Gu (48:35): And awareness, love, the joy help you to open the energy. So all these things interconnected. But the simplicity is the choice, is the process, is the commitment, buoyed onto it. That's the foundation.

David Dahas (48:55): I have a visual. And tell me if this is a good visual for what you're what you've been explaining to us today. If I dropped a stone into a still water and I watched the waves ripple out.

Ming Tong Gu (49:07): Exactly.

David Dahas (49:08): Is me becoming happier, joyful and letting go of the trauma, the anxiety, the hate? When I do that, am I going to ripple that water in a better configuration than if I'm angry? Is that what is that the difference we're doing here?

Ming Tong Gu (49:24): No doubt about that. Absolutely. Absolutely. So when we're able to do some practice, yeah, whether qigong, whether yoga, whether meditation, with other spiritual energetic practice, doing it with the intention of healing, awakening of yourself, healing awakening of each other, healing awakening of the world, ultimately for inner peace as well, global peace. Yeah.

Ming Tong Gu (49:52): And you start to feel that, experiencing that, embody that, naturally share that, and you can project that energy out to the whole world, whole universe. Yeah. And then then we do that. More or power. It's just a science measurement, you know, measuring the result already.

Ming Tong Gu (50:11): It's like one of the most powerful language we use is called the qi field. It's a living energy field. And that is, you know, Lin MacTeks are doing this kind of beautiful process. But that's in China, the language started with my teacher. That's like forty years ago, He fifty years started doing that already.

Ming Tong Gu (50:35): And the main thing is he's experimenting in the Medicine Institute Chico Hospital with 5,000 people, not only just intention, doing the practice. It's like from intention to concentration to action to embodiment, the whole process. So often people focus on just intention. Often people focus on just action without intention. So the whole process has to be aligned intention, concentration, practice, action.

Ming Tong Gu (51:09): It's all that aligned. And that's what happened in the medicine in Chikung Hoo Hospital. So you can imagine the power of the time. So like thousand people practicing day in the night, you know, over the years, not just occasionally, and for decades. And that's where these powerful healing happen.

Ming Tong Gu (51:29): You know, often we think there's a miracle, but they're not a miracle. These are energetic signs. Yeah, you can repeating that. But the point is, are we ready to do that in such intensity, such dedication? Most of us are lazy.

Unknown Speaker (51:44): Most honestly, most of us just like looking for shortcut, easy solution. Give me a bill. It's me. Yeah, you're taking care of my pain. That's the real problem.

David Dahas (51:56): Has this been measured? Has this been quantitatively measured? Has it been brain scans or blood draws? Has there been

Ming Tong Gu (52:02): Yeah. I'm so grateful you asking that. Not only you see this beautiful video Greg Brandon shared so many time. You openly, that's the the documented video from the Medicine Chikung Hospital where I was trained. And so looking at it, often people think this is a miracle, A tumor in, you know, almost fist size able to dissolve in front of you in a CT scan in few minutes.

Ming Tong Gu (52:36): And But it's not a miracle. It's like it's happened in that qi field, in that energy field. In that energy field is created by thousand, thousand people practicing for many, many years together. And with such intention, dedication, yeah, to project energy to the tumor, to dissolve this tumor, and also the cause behind the tumor. So not just the substance of the tumor.

Ming Tong Gu (53:06): It's like, what is the energy entanglement causing that tumor? Our fear. Yeah. What

David Dahas (53:13): energy entanglement? I want to explain that again because the audience has got to grab this. So the YouTube video, go on to YouTube, put in Greg Braden, cancer disappearing, whatever. This lady has a tumor, like you mentioned, the size of a fist. And there's three people.

David Dahas (53:32): And if I remember correctly, they have their hands out using energy, intention. Along with the person that's on the table who has a tumor in their abdomen, there's a screen that's showing how big this tumor is. And they sit there and they chant, It is done. It is done. It is done.

David Dahas (53:53): And in three minutes with their energy and their hands out, literally that tumor just goes away, disappears.

Ming Tong Gu (54:00): Actually, it's ultrasound, right? It's ultrasound.

David Dahas (54:02): Yeah. Ultrasound of the of the Yeah. And they see it they watch the ultrasound.

Ming Tong Gu (54:06): Exactly disappear in front of your eyes. So what I'm gonna share with you, another experiment we just did last October using this very cutting edge bioenergetic measurement technology from Russia. And I heard that Russia has the most sophisticated technology to measure energy, which is invisible, but they can measure all these parameters, including the strength of energy and the the area expansion of energy, and then also the intensity of energy, that's a little bit different than just energy strengths of all. And then another is the coherency of energy. Even you go deeper, you know, measuring the bioenergetic field of every organ system, nerve system, so on.

Ming Tong Gu (55:04): So we go slow that measurement in the whole thirty days of retreat. The equipment is there 20 fourseven to measure. So the the result was is phenomenal, David. It's like this. You see the overall energy first week, yeah, whatever level, you know, increasing, increasing.

Ming Tong Gu (55:25): Then second week goes down. Then third week goes up, up. Fourth week goes up, all the way up. Like, continue goes up, up. Yeah.

Ming Tong Gu (55:35): Then the intensity is similar pattern. Then also the area of expansion of the energy of the expansion is similar pattern. It goes down, then goes up, continue goes up. Then what's most of phenomena is the coherency. The coherency is like fluctuating first week, second week, stronger, third week, stronger.

Ming Tong Gu (55:56): Third week, suddenly, it's incredible coherence, stable coherence. The fourth week, the coherence goes yeah, it's like the number is called entropy. The lower the number is, the more powerful the coherence is. So entropy into the third week, especially to the fourth week, to reach to the level unimaginable. The scientists that measured this whole phenomenon never seen anything like that anywhere.

Ming Tong Gu (56:27): So what that tells us is like this, simply put it. So as a whole group reflecting the energetic of the individual. First, we come in the first week, everybody feel like honeymoon, like excited, do this work. The energy is opening, changing from our normal pattern in everyday life, just for pattern, whatever it is. Right?

Ming Tong Gu (56:51): And so that's the first week phenomenon. Right? So first week when we do retreat, everybody feel good. Then you go home like, boom. You go down.

Ming Tong Gu (57:00): Right? Because you didn't go slow the second week. The second week, we call the qi purification. Now you're ready to face the deeps the trauma, deeps the problem, deeps the contraction, deeps the emotion. Are you ready to face that?

Ming Tong Gu (57:15): So when you go facing that, the energy like, you know, challenging. Right? So it's like contraction. It's like the feels weak, feel overwhelmed, feel whatever. And then when you keep keep on working with that, so suddenly the third week bring you up from the worst place.

Ming Tong Gu (57:35): Bring up. Here's a key point. From the worst place, the same practice can bring from your worst place to raising up, go to the best place. Then that's the practice most effective. And you're doing that, obviously, in the retreat every day, hours at a time.

Ming Tong Gu (57:54): And the third week, continue rising. The fourth week, stabilize itself to a new baseline. So that is phenomenal. And that's like scientific measurement confirming exactly what we experienced in retreat, but also confirming my teacher's choice, why he did that. He intuitively know the retreat requires four weeks.

David Dahas (58:22): Four weeks to do the retreat. Where do do the retreats at in in in Mexico?

Unknown Speaker (58:26): Yeah. New Mexico.

Unknown Speaker (58:28): New Mexico.

Ming Tong Gu (58:28): Yeah. Right. New Mexico. That's where our retreat center is based called the southwest sanctuary. Behind me is a big retreat center.

David Dahas (58:37): Okay. How many people come at a time?

Ming Tong Gu (58:40): Usually between 20 up to 50 people. You know, honestly, like, bigger the group, more powerful it is.

David Dahas (58:48): Basically on-site there?

Ming Tong Gu (58:50): No. We, you know, we do everything indoor, but also enjoy the the nature outdoor. We have, like, orifices, so many trees, flowers, and the water elements, fountains, and animals. You know, the weather is just so incredible. So it's like it's a living energy field combined with nature, practice, community.

Unknown Speaker (59:17): Am I sitting still all day or am I doing different things?

Ming Tong Gu (59:21): Every day. Yeah. We approaching everything as qigong. It's like you're eating mindfully. You're walking mindfully.

Ming Tong Gu (59:29): Yeah. You're connecting with the tree mindfully. You feel your body mindfully. You feel the presence of each other mindfully. You do movement.

Ming Tong Gu (59:37): You do sound. You do meditation. You do dance. Yeah. You're treating food as medicine.

Ming Tong Gu (59:43): You're treating the sun as medicine. You feel life as medicine. You discover the inner medicine refracting outside of you. That is like whole journey of rebirth, basically.

David Dahas (59:57): When you healed your asthma and scoliosis, scoliosis, that's a big deal. So what was that like for you? Was it spontaneous? Was it over a period of months as you're So it's doing this

Ming Tong Gu (1:00:10): all accumulative. It's all accumulative. Took me two years to total recover from asthma and three years to recover from sclerosis.

Unknown Speaker (1:00:25): So three years And of are doing this practice you doing the practice like everyone's busy, they're going to say, Well, how much time should I devote daily Oh, to this

Ming Tong Gu (1:00:34): yeah. The choose is individually different. The choose is more you do the practice, more consistent you're doing it. Extremely powerful, the retreat because so intense, so deep, so consistent for a peer longer period of time. So more you're dedicating, more you're consistent, the more effective it becomes.

Ming Tong Gu (1:00:55): So if you do, say, only thirty minutes of every day, which is wonderful, but then you're creating the result proportional to thirty minutes a day. If you do one hour practice every day, then the result is more than double of thirty minutes because it's accumulative. When our practice, the benefit is more than twice of thirty minutes.

David Dahas (1:01:20): This help attract Can this the law of attract Can this help me attract maybe a new significant other? Can this help me attract new clients? Can this help my business by me changing my energy and getting connected?

Ming Tong Gu (1:01:34): Absolutely. I'm so great to mention that. You know, it's like everything's energetic. It's like do qigong practice allow you to, you know, intensify deepening the connection? So the connection with your own body is energetic.

Ming Tong Gu (1:01:52): Connection with the mother earth is energetic. Connection with heaven is energetic. Connecting with life is energetic. Not only you awaken in a deeper alignment, deeper purpose, deeper vision, but also you start have this increasing your energy power, energy capacity, not only, you know, for health, for vitality, but for love and joy, for but for creativity, for manifestation. So abundance, yeah, is all based on energy.

Ming Tong Gu (1:02:23): So more you're connecting with energy, more you feel abundant and manifest life abundant and fulfilling your destiny for your purpose.

David Dahas (1:02:33): Would this be a good complement to other functional medicine, acupuncture, chiropractic, breath work, etcetera? Or would this replace it? What's your focus?

Ming Tong Gu (1:02:44): Good question. I'm glad you're asking this. In the beginning, honestly, most people come to the qigong think of using qigong as a complement to what they do. Everything else they do. It's great.

Ming Tong Gu (1:02:55): But when they're increasing the practice, they're realizing they can simplify other things. Like, from 10 thing they're doing, start to reducing five things, three things. And eventually, yeah, they just do Qigong. For me, just Qigong. That's it.

Ming Tong Gu (1:03:11): So it depends on the person.

David Dahas (1:03:13): Okay. Yep. In other words, may need someone to walk along with you and help you with a few other things along the way until you become strong in Exactly. This Yeah. Doctor.

David Dahas (1:03:26): Fascinating. Okay, so we got to get your book, Coming Home to Embodied Awakening. Go to your website, bingtonggu.com. That's mingtonggu.com. Check out your retreat.

David Dahas (1:03:48): Read the book and start and begin.

Unknown Speaker (1:03:51): Wonderful. Wonderful.

Unknown Speaker (1:03:53): We Thank miss I'm

Ming Tong Gu (1:03:54): excited if I can support anyone on this journey of healing, spiritual awakening, fulfill your destiny. So we have all these program available online, retreat, and making, you know, the effort to make a difference for yourself, for your life, for the world we're living in now.

Unknown Speaker (1:04:15): Fantastic.

Ming Tong Gu (1:04:17): Thank you so much.

David Dahas (1:04:19): Thank you for being on.

Ming Tong Gu (1:04:19): Thank you. Thank you. Really enjoy our conversation, enjoy our sharing, and I appreciate everything you do. So hope you can come, visit Santa Fe, and

Unknown Speaker (1:04:31): Hey. If I could get you down there and meet Meeting

Unknown Speaker (1:04:33): both Greg, Brenton, Alistair I and

Unknown Speaker (1:04:36): tell his stories all the time. No. I use his I I too little because when I'm teaching the heart coherence, I'm teaching it, I'm doing the sound bowls.

Unknown Speaker (1:04:43): Exactly.

David Dahas (1:04:44): There's a lot of little short little clips on YouTube. Now I have to find yours. But he's got just one minute little, just every day, figured I had to take those little pieces and tie it in to give him more of a, I guess, kind of wordy words, if you will. My wife say it, but the wordy words. And so, yes, tell him I use this stuffy stuff.

Unknown Speaker (1:05:06): Another term my wife uses.

Unknown Speaker (1:05:07): Wonderful. Wonderful.

David Dahas (1:05:09): Yeah. Well, that's good. It's good to meet another person in this universe. So I'm very excited that you came on and I've expanding my knowledge as well. I really appreciate it.

David Dahas (1:05:21): You have to come to Boise and do our ten day healing retreat and teach for us.

Unknown Speaker (1:05:26): Yeah. Oh, love that. Yeah. Love that. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (1:05:30): Let's be in touch.

David Dahas (1:05:31): Awesome. Well And take a little bit more to get on the podcast. We're always a little bit behind on the podcast portion, but it'll definitely be in Boise, Idaho and KIDL this weekend on Sunday morning at 9AM.

Unknown Speaker (1:05:42): Wonderful. Wonderful. Wonderful.

David Dahas (1:05:45): There's an app actually. Kidotalkradio.com. There's an app. You can listen to the radio version.

Unknown Speaker (1:05:51): Nice.

David Dahas (1:05:51): Which will be a little bit shorter than what we win here because I see we're an hour and a minute. I got thirty eight, about thirty six minutes on the radio during our sessions. Wonderful.

Unknown Speaker (1:06:01): Yeah. Hey, thank you again. Appreciate.

David Dahas (1:06:04): Yeah. And if you do another big retreat, I'd love to be your colon hydrotherapist guy that comes on and talks about the second brain.

Ming Tong Gu (1:06:11): Right. Right. All right. Yeah. And so one of the practice we do, really quite unique, quite powerful, is sound healing practice for our five organ system.

Ming Tong Gu (1:06:26): And something really uniquely powerful and deep, and everybody can do it. So Yeah. I'll send you some example.

Unknown Speaker (1:06:35): Awesome. You know, found the sound bowls I was at a conference and I had a booth next to the guy that was selling the sound bowls at a wellness facility. I thought they're kind of cool. That's kind of awesome. So I bought some.

David Dahas (1:06:46): I traded vitamins for the bowls. Doctor. Yeah. And about a year later, I was at New York City at the New Yorker Hotel, one of the biggest alternative wellness festivals. And they were there again.

Unknown Speaker (1:06:57): And so I went over and said hi to him, and there's a guy talking there. You'll find this guy says, Yeah, I got 38 of these bowls. Go, What? Why do you got 38 bowls? He says, Well, that's how I help people heal.

Unknown Speaker (1:07:07): I go, What do you mean? So of course, then I went home and started digging around and going like, oh, there's a little more to this than I knew.

Unknown Speaker (1:07:15): Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I prefer simple. Yeah. All these different tool can be very supportive, but I just go internal, the inner technology. I don't need any other tools.

Ming Tong Gu (1:07:29): When I'm making the sound, the energy is awakening, opening. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (1:07:33): Yeah. Awesome. Cool beans, as we say in Idaho. We say cool beans.

Ming Tong Gu (1:07:38): All right. All right. Blessing, blessing.

Unknown Speaker (1:07:41): All right. Take care, friend.

Unknown Speaker (1:07:42): All rest of the day and the evening.

Unknown Speaker (1:07:44): Okay. Appreciate you.

Unknown Speaker (1:07:45): Likewise. Thank you.